The Bun Shell

Post by avgcorrection » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:05 PM UTC

jchw wrote: post #197

airstrike wrote: post #181

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> Is it aiming to be POSIX-compliant/compatible with Bourne shell? No? It never claimed to be aiming to be POSIX-compliant. It seems like it's just making it easier to write "scripts", or do the equivalent of writing a script, in JS. And if you're NOT using this, then you're also not guaranteed to have a POSIX-compliant shell since you may be on Windows, for example

To be honest, it absolutely should aim to be at least a strictly compatible subset of POSIX, even if it doesn't implement everything. There is really no good reason to XKCD 927 this on purpose, but the mentality regarding this is not written anywhere that I saw. I think the mentality regarding compatibility ought to be documented in more detail. What is considered a "bug"?

Post by cerved » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:31 PM UTC

shzhdbi09gv8ioi wrote: post #198

cerved wrote: post #196

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Why would you need to optimize the config? I'm not talking about running an interactive shell.

You commented on someone mentioning bash being slow to start. So your parent discussed interactive shell, and I assumed you did, since you didn't state otherwise.

Post by ktm5j » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 6:11 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #162

abhinavk wrote: post #102

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I have recently switched to using Nushell as my default shell. They were also writing their own but recently decided instead to begin incorporating github.com/uutils/coreutils (Rust rewrite of GNU coreutils). They target uutils to be a drop-in replacement for the GNU utils. Differences with GNU are treated as bugs.

A commendable effort but to me they are not going far enough. I'd honestly just start over, implement what seems to make sense and only add extra stuff on top if there's a huge demand for it + that demand is well-argumented for. I get why they don't want to do that and I respect their project a lot. But to me imitating this ancient toolchain is just perpetuating a problem.

Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 9:21 PM UTC

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #51

"JavaScript is the world's most popular scripting language." Perhaps, based on usage. But shell must be the world's most ubiquitous scripting language. Not every computer has a Javascript engine but most have a shell. Many, many computers have no browser, let alone a GUI. Some small form factor computers might have embedded Javascript engine but that's a minority. No browser on the router.

Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 11:02 PM UTC

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #51

"JavaScript is the world's most popular scripting language." Perhaps, based on usage. But shell must be the world's most ubiquitous scripting language. Not every computer has a Javascript engine but most have a shell. Many, many computers have no browser, let alone a GUI. Some small form factor computers might have embedded Javascript engine but that's a minority. No browser on the router.