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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by creesch »

tmerse wrote: post #110
MacsHeadroom wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you opt out you lose access to basically every feature you're paying for. No conversation history, no access to plugins, etc.

Are you sure about that? Parent was not referring to the "APP -> Data controls -> Chat History & Training" Radio Button which would delete your history older than 30 days, but rather to a specific form you can use to opt out. Coincidentally I just used this form yesterday and got the confirmation about opting out.

Edit: This was previously a comment where I said I thought it did no longer show history. As it turns out the website version of chatGPT is just having a ton of issues. So it is very slow to load and when it does finally seems to load the sidebar doesn't show any content. After refreshing a few times the sidebar does show up.

So if people are going through the steps now they might indeed think that they no longer have access to advanced features.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by codetrotter »

tgv wrote: post #200
lwhi wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. We shouldn't assume a basic sentence capitalised word refers to a product. If a reference to a product is intended, we should clarify that association some other way; i.e. MS Teams.

The reading process is automatic. It's quite likely that capitalized "Teams" is read by may as the product name. And it's reasonable, because in most daily contexts, "teams" refers to actual "teams" and "Teams" refers to the product. Nobody (including you) is going to teach them to stop doing that. Adapting a rather dumb capitalization rule is a lot easier. I do agree that editors should read their topics critically…

Teams is a very generic product name. Microsoft can live with the consequences of that.

When I read the headline, I was not thinking of MS Teams. Because I only use MS Teams a few rare times a year. Mainly I use Zoom.

But even if OpenAI had an article that with the rules of headline capitalization of HN ended up reading “Dall-E adds Zoom Feature” I would have imagined that it was about being able to zoom into pictures. Not automatically assumed that it had anything to do with Zoom. Even though I use Zoom almost every day.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by mbesto »

bix6 wrote: post #20

“No training on your business data or conversations” Does this mean they will still use your data for other non-training purposes?

I mean, how else can you actually get a result without using your actual data...?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by codetrotter »

dabber wrote: post #178
lysecret wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, big noob question I never understood how to capitalize headlines correctly. Can someone eli5 ?:D

> I never understood how to capitalize headlines correctly. Can someone eli5 ?:D On HN, copy/paste is usually a safe bet (with a few exceptions): https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you mean in general, Wikipedia sums it up pretty well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case

> On HN, copy/paste is usually a safe bet

Also note that HN automatically applies the capitalization rules to submitted headlines. So you don’t really need to do any changes to the capitalization yourself when you submit.

And for understanding how the rules work, I agree that Wikipedia article is good.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by neals »

EmilStenstrom wrote: post #169
benreesman wrote: post #66

I’ve got my stuff rigged to hit mixtral-8x7, and dolphin locally, and 3.5-turbo, and the 4-series preview all with easy comparison in emacs and stuff, and in fairness the 4.5-preview is starting to show some edge on 8x7 that had been a toss-up even two weeks ago. I’m still on the mistral-medium waiting list. Until I realized Perplexity will give you a decent amount of Mistral Medium for free through their partnership…

Here's a glossary to understand this post: - mixtral-8x7 or 8x7: Open source model by Mistral AI. - Dolphin: An uncensored version of the mistral model - 3.5-turbo: GPT-3.5 Turbo, the cheapest API from OpenAI - 4-series preview OR "4.5 preview": GPT-4 Turbo, the most capable API from OpenAI - mistral-medium: A new model by Mistral AI that they are only serving through AI. It's in private beta and there's a waiting li…

Crazy, your post feels like downloading martial arts in the Matrix. I read the parent, didn't get a thing and though the guy was on substances. Read yours. Read the parent again. I speak AI now! I'm going to use this new power to raise billions!

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by manojlds »

lwhi wrote: post #197
shrx wrote: post #142

Could a moderator change the "Teams" in the title to lowercase (as it is in the article)? Capitalizing Teams misleadingly implies it's regarding Microsoft's chat platform.

I disagree. We shouldn't assume a basic sentence capitalised word refers to a product. If a reference to a product is intended, we should clarify that association some other way; i.e. MS Teams.

Should do the same for Apple?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by gbalduzzi »

codetrotter wrote: post #202
tgv wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reading process is automatic. It's quite likely that capitalized "Teams" is read by may as the product name. And it's reasonable, because in most daily contexts, "teams" refers to actual "teams" and "Teams" refers to the product. Nobody (including you) is going to teach them to stop doing that. Adapting a rather dumb capitalization rule is a lot easier. I do agree that editors should read their topics critically…

Teams is a very generic product name. Microsoft can live with the consequences of that. When I read the headline, I was not thinking of MS Teams. Because I only use MS Teams a few rare times a year. Mainly I use Zoom. But even if OpenAI had an article that with the rules of headline capitalization of HN ended up reading “Dall-E adds Zoom Feature” I would have imagined that it was about being able to zoom into picture…

> Teams is a very generic product name. Microsoft can live with the consequences of that.

Quite the contrary, Microsoft earns free advertisement from this. The problem is for the people that misunderstand the heading, not for Microsoft

Ok, you would understand it correctly even the Zoom example. So?

Heading should be optimized for the most possible amount of people, there is a clear possibility that a lot of people misunderstand the title, so why not simply edit it? In that case neither you nor anyone else would understand something wrong

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by Smerity »

EmilStenstrom wrote: post #169
benreesman wrote: post #66

I’ve got my stuff rigged to hit mixtral-8x7, and dolphin locally, and 3.5-turbo, and the 4-series preview all with easy comparison in emacs and stuff, and in fairness the 4.5-preview is starting to show some edge on 8x7 that had been a toss-up even two weeks ago. I’m still on the mistral-medium waiting list. Until I realized Perplexity will give you a decent amount of Mistral Medium for free through their partnership…

Here's a glossary to understand this post: - mixtral-8x7 or 8x7: Open source model by Mistral AI. - Dolphin: An uncensored version of the mistral model - 3.5-turbo: GPT-3.5 Turbo, the cheapest API from OpenAI - 4-series preview OR "4.5 preview": GPT-4 Turbo, the most capable API from OpenAI - mistral-medium: A new model by Mistral AI that they are only serving through AI. It's in private beta and there's a waiting li…

I think you've done a great explanation expansion except I believe it's ALiBi ("Attention with Linear Biases Enables Input Length Extrapolation"), a method of positional encoding (i.e. telling the Transformer model how much to weight a distant token when computing the current output token). This has been used on various other LLMs[2].

[1]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.12409

[2]: n.b. Ofir Press is co-creator of ALiBi https://twitter.com/OfirPress/status/1654538361447522305

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by dspillett »

pests wrote: post #166
cald0s wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's how headlines work

I agree, but why didn't the original article do it? Or did they see the potential for confusion and deliberately not? When a common word is a product / brand, how do you use that word in a title without bringing up associations with that product / brand? Isn't the guidelines to submit the title as-is, no editorializing?

> but why didn't the original article do it?

Local style guide says not to capitalise headlines, presumably.

Though you are right, the general rule here is not to change headlines and that should probably apply to style as well as wording. Looking at other posts on the main list there seems to be a mix as the original styles (sentence cap, all words capitalised, all but articles, …) have been kept.

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