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> Dumb question: wouldn't non-conductive liquids be harmless? Mostly yes, except for things like concentrated sulfuric acid which is highly corrosive but a bad conductor.
I guess I won't be liquid cooling my setup with concentrated sulfuric acid then
Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
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Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
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And Sony Xperias still come with headphone jacks today[1] after they tried Apple'ing for a couple models and got laughed at. [1]: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-table...
Real question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?
People love to complain about the dongle but really it just adds a couple of inches to the wire. If you can deal with the wire you can deal with a wire with USB-C on the end.
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#204This is a feature of newer usb-c pd chipsets. See, e.g., https://www.ti.com/product/TPS25751 in the features section. Apple has historically used TI chipsets for their USB power controllers. The feature likely comes from this.
The binary is at "/System/Library/CoreServices/liquiddetectiond". I took a quick look at disassembly, it has some functions for getting voltage, an amusingly named selector called "setIsWet". There's an "AnalyticsSendEvent" in there (and some corresponding obj-c methods). Maybe marcan will do a deeper disassembly one day. There's some reference to TI stuff in the selector names so you're probably right about that.
Smells of bad engineering - do they also have a batteryislowd? or a someonepressedtheMkeyonthekeyboardd?
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#205Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
Water resistant is not water proof.
Pure not salt water or tap water, not contaminated toilet water where most phones seem to end up. And only for a certain time at a certain depth (pressure). And not pressurized just static.
Maybe they should be named USB-Sea? /s
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I don't know, the first sentence says: > Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models. But the article is kind of all over the place. It then says Macs can now detect water in USB-C ports while having pictures in the article of iPhones showing messages that they detected liquids. They like to make the point tha…
The iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. They say you must have done something you shouldn't have if that happens, like diving deep or something. They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them.
The laptop has never gotten wet, and everything apart from the M key was working perfectly.
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#207Possibly not related, but my past two Samsungs have had this feature and it drives me crazy. Usually they seem to trigger when using non standard cords and from 0% battery life. This means that I get a very loud warning sound triggering when trying to charge my phone from a battery pack or borrowing someone's cord. Oddly, charging when on (ie not completely dead), this feature doesn't trigger the alarm. I really disl…
You really dislike a feature that plays a loud sound instead of shorting pins in you USB-C connector together? Guess what is more annoying than a loud sound.
Happens a lot for people who leave USB-C cables in the bottom of bags and they get dirt in the connector (and possibly the residue from that beer that exploded in your bag last year and the sugary water never quite evaporates)
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#209Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
No you lost the headphone jack to sell more AirPods. My Samsung S8 was waterproof and had the jack. And it was just as thin as an iPhone.