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Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

Compatibility is also a point, GTA V works pretty well on Steam Proton, but it might clarify some bugs that already exist, while also helping with better support for RDR 2 and GTA 6 in the future.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

#202

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

There are people in Amsterdam that steal bikes only to sell them for 10Eur.

I just don’t understand why would anyone do that but I am software dev working remotely it doesn’t make sense in „my world” - it most likely makes sense in someone’s else world.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

#203

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

Worse, no competitor should allow their employees to ever download or worse look at the source code as it would taint all their IP with possible theft. Just because the code is leaked doesn’t mean Rockstar has lost ownership of the intellectual property, it just means everyone distributing it is participating in the theft and everyone holding it is complicit. Worse by reading it and possibly using trade secrets embedded in the code in a competitors product exposes the competitor to civil and criminal penalties.

I would treat the source code as radioactive toxic waste to be handled at your own peril.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Publishing it would be breaking the law and exposing themselves to a lawsuit, which they would lose. The swag is nice.

Well there's two arguments to be made. They 100% gave him the source code in a grab bag of goodies. That's a pretty simple case of he has a right to the disc itself, so he could have just kept it (or resold it) and not published. Them giving him "stuff" was them "buying" the item back, not just them being nice (as you put it). There's also an argument to be made that the code itself does not infringe on their IP, as…

> There's also an argument to be made that the code itself does not infringe on their IP,

That’s not how IP works.

Blizzard didn’t forfeit their rights to the IP at any point. Even selling them a grab bag of stuff that unintentionally included a copy of the source code doesn’t mean the recipient actually received a legal license to the IP.

You can make all the arguments you want, but in the court of law you’re not going to get away with anything that involves giving away another company’s IP, even if they accidentally let you see a copy of it. “Finders keepers” doesn’t work with IP.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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Everyone should read the Linux kernel source to see how aggressively up a painful local maximum you can get in the name of simplicity.

What do you mean?

Just a guess, but perhaps things like the process model. PID 1, fork, exec and so forth. Or argv, or environment variables, or “everything is a file”, or having just three streams (stdin, stdout, stderr).

In isolation, all beautifully simple concepts, but there has been an awful lot built on top over several decades, stretching and outgrowing the simplicity. The complexity of modern technology has to live somewhere, though.

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"Out on bail for allegedly hacking the hardware company Nvidia, Kurtaj, prosecutors say, pulled off the GTA heist while staying under police protection at a Travelodge hotel. Without his computer, he somehow managed to hack into Rockstar using his smartphone, an Amazon Firestick, and the TV in his hotel room." Oh? I will allow it. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/12/teen-hacked-grand-th...

After reading this I assumed he used some kind of remote server he had access to. Eg phone is the Bluetooth keyboard, fire stick provides an internet connection and a browser, and remote server provides the full Linux environment to do whatever actually hacking with.

That doesn't really get you much vs just using the phone. Bigger screen and notional multitasking I guess

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99% of game developers dont build on their own engines. It's would be like looking into Linux kernel source code to build your own music player app or TODO app. Few people who do heavy engine lifting in C++ simply not gonna bother with someone else code. But I pretty sure everyone in modding community would be really happy.

I read a lot of Linux kernel code and I’m just a meager application developer.

The key difference is you are licensed and entitled to read the Linux source code.

GTA 5 hasn’t been licensed to you and you are absolutely not entitled to read it, even if you managed to get hold of it due to a theft. By reading it as an app developer you taint your knowledge with stolen intellectual property and stolen trade secrets, potentially exposing yourself and any game you work on (including for an employer) to criminal and civil penalties.

That’s the immense value of open source and Linux in specific. You are allowed to read it, improve it, rip out bits that are useful (as compliant with the license), and use the concepts as fully licensed intellectual property without trade secret encumbrance.

I am personally really interested in reading the source and see how they do things. I’m certain there’s fascinating bits of tech in there. But I wouldn’t underestimate the risk I would put myself, my family, and my employer at and the willingness of corporations to crush the small guy. See the pain inflicted by downloading mp3s, and the marginal value of copying an mp3 is infinitesimal compared to the source code of a AAA game to the studio.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

#208

Serious, why would anybody care besides modding community, and maybe GTA Online hackers? No competitor can think there's anything there worth their money and effort.

It could be a great learning material. I'm not a game developer, but I would be very happy to have an AAA game source code I can build locally.

If you just want this, go download the Doom 3 Source code, or look at Lyra + UE5.

Re: GTA 5 source code leaks online

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After reading this I assumed he used some kind of remote server he had access to. Eg phone is the Bluetooth keyboard, fire stick provides an internet connection and a browser, and remote server provides the full Linux environment to do whatever actually hacking with.

That doesn't really get you much vs just using the phone. Bigger screen and notional multitasking I guess

Evasion of surveillance of his phone's internet usage?
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