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He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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I don’t think it’s normal human nature to assault / murder / psychologically torture / ruin the life of / etc someone who points out what your group is doing wrong. It may happen from time to time, enough that it should be a potential expected response. But just like psychopathy and schizophrenia are abnormal, so is murdering or ruining the life of a whistleblower. 1-2% of the population may be a sociopath / psychopa…

You don't think violence is part of human nature? I don't even know what to respond to that, except that it's not just socio- or psycho- or some other label of -paths. Everyone is capable of violence when threatened. Threatening the group is often perceived as worse than threatening a given individual, and will therefore induce a stronger reaction.

I still dont think its normal to resort to violence just because someone will only make $400,000 this year instead of $4 million as a result of whistleblowing. Or even no change to their income but their company will make less profit as a result of whistleblowing. Or they’ll “be embarassed” as in the case of eBay.

That’s not a “threat” - they’re in no danger.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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post #82

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I wish HN gave me the ability to gild comments like reddit does.

I visited Reddit yesterday for the first time in a long time. I saw an interesting meme and wanted to write a long form piece of content in the comments. After I was done: I received two low-effort replies that revealed to me I have less-than-great communication skills or the readers put zero focus in active reading skills; and one reply with an axe to grind that focused on attacking me and making all sorts of assump…

Given Reddit's history with fake accounts, I'm not sure that many posts aren't just fever-dreamed LLMs on corporately created bulk accounts.

Reddit has burned a lot of credibility with the power user and creator types. I know plenty who've moved to Mastodon, Blue Sky, Threads, etc. And by doing so, leaves bottom feeders there. And how else do you get engagement? You fake it, naturally.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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I don’t think you can justify ethnically cleansing the Palestinians in 1948, and I hardly think the (Jewish) Israeli government gets to play the “it was 80 years ago, it’s old news” since playing on the historical misfortunes of the Jewish community is their justification for existing. After Ariel Sharon went full false-flag terrorist in Lebanon, again it’s hard to describe these actions as “reactive”. They were very…

Even if one wants to leave what happened in 1948 in the past, Israel is still doing plenty of damage to Palestinians today , for example: 1. Indefinitely blockading the Gaza Strip by sea and air thus not allowing it to trade normally with foreign countries. 2. In the West Bank, applying separate legal systems to Jews (who have Israeli citizenship due to their ethnicity) and Arabs (who have no way to become Israeli ci…

> Indefinitely blockading the Gaza Strip by sea and air thus not allowing it to trade normally with foreign countries

It should be noted that this didn't just happen, it was in response to threat of violence. Israel wants gaza to stop shooting them with rockets, so they tried to prevent them from importing things that could be used as weapons.

I mean, maybe you could argue the blockade is heavy handed and the military benefit didn't justify the other harm it caused. But its not that different from other forms of ecconomic sanctions used by countries when they want to do something but not actually go to war.

> In the West Bank, applying separate legal systems to Jews (who have Israeli citizenship due to their ethnicity) and Arabs (who have no way to become Israeli citizens)

My understanding is that under the geneva convention it would be a warcrime to apply israeli civilian law to the arabs who live in the west bank. So its not like that is totally in the hands of israel.

(I agree that 3 & 4 are fucked up and pretty impossible to defend)

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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One of these days I'm going to make the Internet prove to ME that IT's not a robot and see how it likes it

this archive.is website (and its other domains) has been misconfigured in "I am under attack mode" since 2015 or so. which makes cloudflare's nonsense captcha come up every time you visit it (and / or just the javascript bot check script).

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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Cancelling your amazon account and posting about it on a service run by aws is pretty comical.

I totally understand it. There are some things you can escape and some things you can't. Should we all just give up totally despite the fact we could win some battles? There's a fair number of HN participants that are no fans of Amazon.

Try boycotting aws. I dare you. Its damn near impossible.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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post #45

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The slavery and working conditions in China no longer really surprises me, what I do struggle to understand is that Western companies apparently DO NOT CARE. I can sort of accept, reluctantly, that the Chinese have a different way to thinking than I do and that I can't necessarily apply my moral code to China. What I cannot accept or understand is that the owners and managers of Western companies, who supposedly shar…

The people would be like: "If our company does not benefit from chinese slaves, someone else will and steal our profits!". Which is kinda sadly true, because Amazon does not care were the stock items come from. You can produce in countries with strong work laws, but it is just too expensive. (same with countries where we get energy resources from - they don't have ideal reputation for human rights, but they are cheap…

>It is kinda simple: you can buy a tshirt from Italy produced in Italy and having price tag 3 times more.

And it will still have been made by a slave.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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My experience of whistleblowing even here in the west is that usually it goes very very badly. The only real thing open to you is to refuse to do anything unethical, quit and walk away. Many people can't afford to do that. Things ought to be different but we live in corrupt societies where the law is different for the rich and powerful than for everyone else.

People love treason but they hate the traitor :-) Forget about whistle-blowing in Europe, it will likely blow up in your face. Best thing is, if you are in a company with unethical behavior, to pack your stuff and leave ASAP and hope that you don't get anything of the fallout.

Can you elaborate?

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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The slavery and working conditions in China no longer really surprises me, what I do struggle to understand is that Western companies apparently DO NOT CARE. I can sort of accept, reluctantly, that the Chinese have a different way to thinking than I do and that I can't necessarily apply my moral code to China. What I cannot accept or understand is that the owners and managers of Western companies, who supposedly shar…

> what I do struggle to understand is that Western companies apparently DO NOT CARE. Here's what it is: in law corporations are essentially given a weird kind of personhood. It's that way so corporations can get things done. Unfortunately, corporations aren't people: they don't care, they don't have ethics, they don't have morals, they don't have values, they don't have family, they don't have a conscience. It's not…

> they don't have ethics, they don't have morals, they don't have values, they don't have family, they don't have a conscience.

Corporations aren't people but they are run and managed by people. I'd like to think that they have ethics, morals and a conscience.

Re: He blew the whistle on Amazon. He's still paying the price

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post #161

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This website doesn’t ever work as a paywall bypass anymore. Just captchas for days.

No, that’s just them blocking your DNS provider. You’re using cloudflare, quad9, or similar. Google “cloudflare archive.is” for details.

nope. archive.is has their cloudflare configuration set to "i am under attack mode"[1], which makes the cloudflare captcha come up every time a tor / vpn / "bad" IP address visits it. its been like this since 2015. if you aren't familiar, cloudflare just serves tor / vpn / "bad" IP captchas for every domain you visit. the captchas themselves are broken half the time. in 2018 cloudflare then added deep packet inspection to see if you're using tor browser and then let you not solve the captcha [2]. but if you're in "i am under attack mode" or some other non default cloudflare configuration, your users will get the captcha

1. or something similar, been a while since i went through cloudflare's configuration options

2. this is also why you will never be able to browse the internet with links / lynx / w3m or use curl / wget ever again without using your bare IP

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