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Re: Gemini AI

#202
I mean the paper is okay and it will take some time to go through it, but this feels like yet another fluff story that will lose traction by Monday.

That’s also to Google’s disadvantage, that they have to follow a lot of internal rules to ensure spotless alignment.

If Sundar writes those fluff paragraphs himself, then I would be willing to bet that he stops after each one to throw his hands in the air in an attempt to punch it, knowing very well that those words don’t really mean much.

Re: Gemini AI

#203

Lots of comments about it barely beating GPT-4 despite the latter being out for a while, but personally ill be happy to have another alternative, if nothing else for the competition. But I really dislike these pre-availability announcements - we have to speculate and take their benchmarks for gospel for a week, while they get a bunch of press for unproven claims. Back to the original point though, ill be happier havi…

Is it not already available via bard?

Not Ultra version

Re: Gemini AI

#204

"We finally beat GPT-4! But you can't have it yet." OK, I'll keep using GPT-4 then. Now OpenAI has a target performance and timeframe to beat for GPT-5. It's a race!

Didn't OpenAI already say GPT-5 is unlikely to be a ton better in terms of quality? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35570690

Where did they say this?

Re: Gemini AI

#205

So it's basically just GPT-4, according to the benchmarks, with a slight edge for multimodal tasks (ie audio, video). Google does seem to be quite far behind, GPT-4 launched almost a year ago.

Less than a year difference is "quite far behind"? Lotus 1-2-3 came out 4 years before Microsoft Excel. WordPerfect came out 4 years before Microsoft Word. Hotmail launched 8 years before Gmail. Yahoo! Mail was 7 years before Gmail. Heck, AltaVista launched 3 years before Google Search. I don't think less than a year difference is meaningful at all in the big picture.

The new alternatives offered better products. Not clear that Gemini qualifies yet besides multimodal.

Re: Gemini AI

#206
post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

It's worth remembering that AI is more than LLMs. DeepMind is still doing big stuff: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/millions-of-new-materi...

Re: Gemini AI

#207

"We finally beat GPT-4! But you can't have it yet." OK, I'll keep using GPT-4 then. Now OpenAI has a target performance and timeframe to beat for GPT-5. It's a race!

Didn't OpenAI already say GPT-5 is unlikely to be a ton better in terms of quality? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35570690

isnt that wrt scaling size? couldn't they make other improvements?

i'd be real interested if they can rebut with big multimodal improvements.

Re: Gemini AI

#208

Gemini Nano sounds like the most exciting part IMO. IIRC Several people in the recent Pixel 8 thread were saying that offloading to web APIs for functions like Magic Eraser was only temporary and could be replaced by on-device models at some point. Looks like this is the beginning of that.

Yeah, even more exciting than the small PaLM2 from Google IO
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