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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by ang_cire »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #126
acdha wrote: post #95

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You’re off by about 20 years - it was the 1920s when car manufacturers were able to get legislation restricting public streets to their customers[1] - but also this ignores the magnitude: yes, cars have always been a public health hazard but the manufacturers reversed a multi-decade safety improvement trend a decade or two back because it boosted their profits, and that happened only in the United States. If our road…

I don't think so. The first killed pedestrian was dead for 22 years before the roaring 1920s. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38466522

One person dying does not equate to "unsafe roads" in the way that "widespread adoption of motor vehicles" does. People were frequently trampled by horse-drawn carriages prior to cars, but not at anywhere close to the rate after cars became so ubiquitous.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by richardw »

jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

There are definitely times I’ll take on a personal cost because of my principles. But he’s pretty far removed from your actual life and there are other factors. There are good people in the company and it’s the best current shot at competing with eg China. Fair chance almost all electric cars are made by China in 20 years. I’d rather deal with a flaky CEO who also happens to generate massive economic benefits for my country. (But that’s me, obviously everyone has that choice to make. And if Tesla was Russian I’d be right there with you so maybe I’m full of it :)

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by m463 »

convolvatron wrote: post #29
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

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> Tesla literally didn't realize the steel comes in coils and it naturally wants to warp back into that state Steel comes in many shapes. Are you saying they used hot versus cold-rolled steel?

stainless has a very strong tendency to want to walk back from forming operations.

Maybe they need to machine it from a block of metal, like apple's laptops.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by rockemsockem »

0xfae wrote: post #171
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #141

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Everyone gets bigger cars because bigger cars have more room inside so they're really comfortable and practical. Teslas are heavier because they have to use batteries and batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol. This is the consequence of you asking them to get rid of combustion.

> batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol What are you getting on about? By what metric?

Mass

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by SheepSlapper »

0xfae wrote: post #171
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone gets bigger cars because bigger cars have more room inside so they're really comfortable and practical. Teslas are heavier because they have to use batteries and batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol. This is the consequence of you asking them to get rid of combustion.

> batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol What are you getting on about? By what metric?

Weight, presumably, because that's the topic of the parent comment. Mile for mile, batteries are heavy and gasoline is (comparatively) light

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by peyton »

adamrezich wrote: post #186
CamperBob2 wrote: post #170

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The risk is that he will go much farther than he already has. If he comes out as a full-fledged neo-Nazi, which I wouldn't bet against given how erratically he has behaved lately, the value of Teslas on the used market will plummet.

have you ever noticed how odd it is that the anti-Musk rhetoric is functionally identical to the anti-Trump rhetoric of 2016–2020, and also how no new Reichs were started 2016–2020, such that one can conclude that perhaps takes like this are possibly a hair hyperbolic in nature, and should maybe be reevaluted a bit before terms such as "neo-Nazi" completely lose any remaining weight they might have?

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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by me_me_me »

blackguardx wrote: post #164
dgrin91 wrote: post #103

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Both run by Musk and they have a lot of folks who have swapped between the two. In general they have very close connections.

I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

I work in one company and the divisions there hardly interact cuz it costs a lot in overhead.

I am pretty sure the guy is making shit up.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by blt »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #100
sushid wrote: post #13

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While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

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The whole concept of roads being "car land" comes from car industry propaganda. Roads existed before cars, and people walked in them. Then cars came along and started killing a lot of pedestrians. Car companies didn't like the negative PR, so they promoted the idea of roads being "car land". They created the concept of "jaywalking" and lobbied governments to make it illegal.

You are the one operating a machine that kills people easily. It is your job to avoid killing people.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by Retr0id »

I dunno if it's just my system fonts, but the numeric digits are not all the same width, so the clock jumps around slightly as it changes.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by homefree »

concordDance wrote: post #157
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I continue to be puzzled by people's strong opinions on Elon. He's says dumb things on social media but there seem to be unusually strong sacred contagion effects from that. Buying petrol from Shell or cereal from Nestle? No problem. Buying a Model 3 from Tesla? No way! Honestly, I'd be surprised if there weren't a ton of people with the same views on immigration or trans issues or covid or whatever, each associated…

I think it's just politics mixed with his Twitter ownership making him enemy number one of the mainstream press (replacing Zuck - they like Zuck now).

You get article after article hating on him - it ends up affecting reputation and public sentiment.

Humanity is lucky to have him, despite his faults.

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