Speaking anecdotally from my own experience, having multiple caregivers may just increase the probability that the child can tell that at least one of them actually wants to be there.
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#202> He argues that recent changes in UK policy show childcare is becoming more of a priority for the government Seems like some massive cognitive dissonance going on here. Outsourcing childcare is why there would be less attentive care in modern society. Virtually all women - old, young, mothers or not - would stay together with the children at all times in these hunter gatherer societies. We already have great daycare…
Sure, the mother would always be with the other women, but she would at least be able to nap. Modern parenting of small children operates by the maxim, sleep when the child sleeps; as there is no one else to look after them. (This is much more difficult in practice than it sounds)
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's not really about responding to 100% of a child demands, it's maybe even detrimental, and probably better to start teaching him patience, and let him learn what to do in boredom. But the other part is having long and meaningful activities/experiences with a child
We decry "demands" when we should acknowledge "dependencies;" kids won't properly compile without their needs met.
A 1-year old may not compile without having its needs met, but a 4-year-old may not link if it doesn't acknowledge the needs of its peers.
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#204I feel like in lieu of spending money on research they could have just asked parents. Basically every parent knows this. The difference between happiness and madness is having several babysitters on standby.
One of my favorite throwaway movie quotes -- from Annabelle (2013).
> Dad: Hey. You know what, you shouldn't even be watching that stuff. All right? It could upset the baby. There's new research out there...
> Mom: Oh, boy, more new research?
> Dad: It's true. They are learning that babies in utero... experience more of the outside world than they ever thought possible. They recognize voices and noises, songs.
> Mom: You know, I bet the men that did that research spent millions of dollars... when they could have just asked the mother for free.
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#205> childcare needs to give parents an actual break. In my experience caring for your small children is really demanding work. On the one hand you need to be focused on the situation in order to protect the children and on the other hand there is not much going on for entertaining yourself. Creative or focused deep work where you get a positive feeling of accomplishment also counts as a break from childcare for me. So…
> In my experience caring for your small children is really demanding work. On the one hand you need to be focused on the situation in order to protect the children I expected this going into having children, but I was surprised at how much I actually enjoyed it. Yes, it’s more active work than sitting in front of a computer, but for me personally I’ve found it much less demanding than my jobs. > and on the other han…
My big discovery was I underestimated how different kids could be. I watch some two year olds happily draw for hours, and lay themselves down for nap. Meanwhile, mine possessed a natural talent for destruction, boundless energy, and refused to sleep more than about eight hours a day.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I cannot understand how come there are so many parents bearing children worldwide. Because the best thing you can do for the world is to raise children well. If they raise theirs, etc. its a cycle of good over thousands of years, that will have more positive impact than anything you could do in your life as an individual.
> Because the best thing you can do for the world Is to not have any children so the population gets back down to sustainable levels
The population is at sustainable level, you only need more nuclear power plants
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I am guessing women have low labor force participation rates in the poor land you moved from ?
i would guess quite the opposite. from what i have seen in places that i have been to women are doing most of the work, like selling food at the market while i saw more men hanging around doing nothing. i guess some of the men that did work went elsewhere for the better jobs.
Listing some specific places would be a good way to validate your anecdote with actual data.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I cannot understand how come there are so many parents bearing children worldwide. Because the best thing you can do for the world is to raise children well. If they raise theirs, etc. its a cycle of good over thousands of years, that will have more positive impact than anything you could do in your life as an individual.
> Because the best thing you can do for the world Is to not have any children so the population gets back down to sustainable levels
Western societies are already down to around replacement levels with some going below it. It's pretty clear cut as societies evolve that population growth evens out. It's 3rd world countries driving the population growth. Over-population of humans being a danger to the earth has been proven false time and time again.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I cannot understand how come there are so many parents bearing children worldwide. Because the best thing you can do for the world is to raise children well. If they raise theirs, etc. its a cycle of good over thousands of years, that will have more positive impact than anything you could do in your life as an individual.
> Because the best thing you can do for the world Is to not have any children so the population gets back down to sustainable levels
You need to watch Idiocracy
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
When some people stop procreating and educating the next generation, the world population does not simply go down. Instead it gets replaced by those who do continue multiplying.
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Yeah maybe that’s why women live longer in order to help with the exhausting process of raising their grandchildren [1]. We love to take care of babies, regardless of (or maybe because of) how clingy and dependent they are. From an Evolutionary point of view, This relationship between needy babies and abnegated caregivers might have given rise to a complementary schimogenesis according to Gregory Bateson, in which ba…
Yes, parenthood is intense, both both ways. It intensifies the highs and the lows. There's more strain and there's more joy. And there's a lot less strain when moving out of nuclear family structures. It all becomes easier for the children and the parents.
I disagree that there's more joy to parenthood. I think that's a lie parents tell themselves to justify their decision.
I'm happy for you if you're happy to have children. That doesn't mean people without children aren't as happy as you.