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Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by doublerabbit »

mrastro wrote: post #41
jlmorton wrote: post #16

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It takes a special kind of hubris to think you're going to develop a browser better than Chrome and Firefox as an open source project. Both Chromium and Firefox are already open source projects. What is the magic sauce that's going to make this effort suddenly produce a perfect browser?

Agree. Plus OP may be severely underestimating the complexity and expense related to developing a new fully featured browser. JavaScript engine, CSS rendering engine, supports for dozens of additional add-ons like WebGL, sandboxing, WASM etc. Microsoft is a case study on this given their attempt and eventually ended up forking off Chromium. Pouring more resources into existing projects seem more realistic.

> Plus OP may be severely underestimating the complexity and expense related to developing a new fully featured browser.

Not at all. I'm just done with the drama and shite that keeps occurring over the piss battle of Chrome and Firefox. The internet is just a waste land and all those technologies you posted I have not seen one decent product come from them. Please feel to prove me wrong.

All of those technologies could be implemented in a better application away from the browser instead of throwing them in a "all-in-one" solution which ends up falling behind because some other new tech comes a long. It's your attitude which causes the internet to lack in the first place.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by doublerabbit »

layer8 wrote: post #18
doublerabbit wrote: post #8

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Even better, can we all finally make a concerted effort and make a new browser better than Chrome and Firefox? We only let the net get jizzed on because we allow it to be. If Serenity can do it, imagine if all those who push repos to github collaborating together and actually making an open source project for all and everyone. Both browsers are old and have been abused.

> If Serenity can do it Microsoft, on the other hand, gave up on it.

Microsoft, who were paid to give up on it. But they won't tell you that.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by antonok »

sandworm101 wrote: post #164

Ok. Goodbye chrome. I will be switching to whatever privacy-focused browser allows me to keep not seeing ads. I do wonder how long it will be before we see browser browsers, software that takes a browser instance and sanitizes it. Maybe chrome will continue as a daemon allowed to run inside a sandbox within a browser's browser that actually displays content to a human.

Why not, I'll make a pitch for Brave here too. We have the only EasyList-compatible adblocker that isn't based on an extension platform.

Yes, there is in-browser private advertising with user revenue share, but all of it can be disabled too if you prefer.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by stalfosknight »

sandworm101 wrote: post #164

Ok. Goodbye chrome. I will be switching to whatever privacy-focused browser allows me to keep not seeing ads. I do wonder how long it will be before we see browser browsers, software that takes a browser instance and sanitizes it. Maybe chrome will continue as a daemon allowed to run inside a sandbox within a browser's browser that actually displays content to a human.

Welcome to Safari!

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by idonotknowwhy »

eastbound wrote: post #190
vlod wrote: post #181

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Welcome to Firefox. We have cookies!

And ads! Mandatory shortcuts for Nike and Amazon on the homepage! Then ads saying Big Browser Watches For You! Then ads saying we respect privacy! Then a suggestion to open a Mozilla account and synchronize all your history! Because we respect privacy!

2 clicks to turn them off mate.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by idonotknowwhy »

bonzini wrote: post #165
jacooper wrote: post #155

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Brave isn't affected by this anyway, brave shields don't depend on the extension API. Also Gecko is just a factually worse engine, that's why they didn't use it.

Gecko is not worse, though it used to be worse before Electrolysis landed. It's just that Mozilla Corp is mostly kept alive by Google so might as well remove the indirection and go straight to the browser that Google maintains

How much money do you reckon it costs for just the Firefox browser? I know Mozilla waste a lot of effort on projects like Firefox OS, the Firefox mobile, politics, etc. But the actual browser it's self and it's hosting?

I just wonder if they end up dropping Manifest V2, if a patron model would work to maintain a fork properly...

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by lern_too_spel »

antonok wrote: post #203
sandworm101 wrote: post #164

Ok. Goodbye chrome. I will be switching to whatever privacy-focused browser allows me to keep not seeing ads. I do wonder how long it will be before we see browser browsers, software that takes a browser instance and sanitizes it. Maybe chrome will continue as a daemon allowed to run inside a sandbox within a browser's browser that actually displays content to a human.

Why not, I'll make a pitch for Brave here too. We have the only EasyList-compatible adblocker that isn't based on an extension platform. Yes, there is in-browser private advertising with user revenue share, but all of it can be disabled too if you prefer.

The ads for cryptocurrency grifts in the settings cannot be disabled.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by PoignardAzur »

vlod wrote: post #181
sandworm101 wrote: post #164

Ok. Goodbye chrome. I will be switching to whatever privacy-focused browser allows me to keep not seeing ads. I do wonder how long it will be before we see browser browsers, software that takes a browser instance and sanitizes it. Maybe chrome will continue as a daemon allowed to run inside a sandbox within a browser's browser that actually displays content to a human.

Welcome to Firefox. We have cookies!

Well yes, but the point is we don't have too much of them.
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