That was a beautiful launch. Would love if someone filmed in HDR to see the brightness and hue of the exhaust more accurately.
Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
There were people suffering when Sputnik launched, or when Apollo 11 landed on the moon. It doesn't reduce the magnitude of the event. Sorry for whatever you are going through, though. Hope you get through it.
That was my point, you talk about new eras, but nothing changes. Who is this new for? You, me, or the billionaires who make lives like mine horrible? It’s all spectacle, and where will it all lead? We landed men on the moon, and haven’t been back. What is SpaceX going to use for going to Mars? Are you gonna be the one that’s going or are they gonna leave you behind to rot here on this burning planet?
Yea it's not about new eras. Hold on a sec "Hey Siri, navigate to the nearest Costco". Yea nothing has changed for the average person as a result of first space launch
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
There were people suffering when Sputnik launched, or when Apollo 11 landed on the moon. It doesn't reduce the magnitude of the event. Sorry for whatever you are going through, though. Hope you get through it.
The moon landings are historically seen through an almost exclusively middle class, white eye. The "magnitude" was definitely reduced if you were poor and/or black. The "magnitude" of the US Space Shuttle program was definitely reduced for me even as a white kid; I got to watch the shuttle launch on a TV rolled into the classroom, and then go right back to reading my mangled, outdated science textbook, watching my te…
> The rest of the world
Can you define that a bit more before I ask further questions?
Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time
#204- Starship got just below orbit - Booster destroyed during hot staging - SpaceX reporting that destruct system fired on upper stage towards end of burn all in all a pretty good result: clean launch and separation, good performance on the booster during ascent (no engine mishaps this time)
Small correction, I think. The booster appeared to survive hot staging fine. It went through quite a bit of it's flip back maneuver. It was awesome to watch. There were some interesting activations of engines in the booster engine ring at that point. It's unclear to me if that was anticipated as an offset subset was what was desired for the off axis maneuver, or things were degrading at that point. And then it blowed…
It was probably self destructed by the range safety officer if things were going south.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Im not interpreting their message as negative. Something obviously went wrong, the termination system was activated, and it blew up. Thats what it’s supposed to do when activated.
>Im not interpreting their message as negative. But shouldn't it be interpreted as negative? It blew up.
It's not the most ideal possible outcome, but overall the launch was a pretty huge success for SpaceX (and for space fans by extension).
The fact they made it so much further than the first launch, seemingly having corrected all the notable things that went wrong there, is very good news - the flight test process serves to root out unknowns and today's launch shows they've done so (and now found some more to work on for the next launch).
So to answer your question, I don't think it should really be interpreted as a negative, as the primary goals were met and the controlled nature of the launch seems promising for SpaceX getting cleared to keep trying.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get that this forum is full of "nothing ever happens" types who can't tolerate any optimism and imperfection, but lol this is a whole other level.
It’s not about being an optimist, it’s about being a realist. And it’s not about the imperfection it’s about celebrating failure. It’s about being humble. It’s about having humility. It’s about knowing what you’re doing is only changing the lives of a very, very small segment of the human population. It’s about knowing that what you’re doing, was made from money, stolen from workers, and from a corrupt financial syst…
I sympathize with your financial situation that is making you feel that way, but don't you see the irony in claiming that while expressing a clearly self-serving opinion?
It'd be like me, as a PhD student, trying to claim that this money was stolen funding from PhD students.
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#207Second stage lost, looks like the flight termination system did its job. Unknown as to why yet. Going to be very very interesting to see the data that's released from this as well as all the higher quality video/stills that surface.
AFTS activation indicates deviation from planned trajectory. It's unusual, being so late in the burn.
Could be a guidance issue, but SpaceX should be pretty good at that by now. Could be engine underperformance, but we got nominal callouts and it would have to be pretty bad for AFTS to notice with minutes left, so that seems unlikely.
I'd guess engine control (due to damage during staging) is the main suspect. We say the thrusters fighting pretty hard there at the end, which supports that idea.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get that this forum is full of "nothing ever happens" types who can't tolerate any optimism and imperfection, but lol this is a whole other level.
It’s not about being an optimist, it’s about being a realist. And it’s not about the imperfection it’s about celebrating failure. It’s about being humble. It’s about having humility. It’s about knowing what you’re doing is only changing the lives of a very, very small segment of the human population. It’s about knowing that what you’re doing, was made from money, stolen from workers, and from a corrupt financial syst…
Watch the SpaceX's coverage. They went out of their way to emphasize that there'd be very high chance that the mission may end at any moment, and hot staging'd be one of the main events, if not the main event, they'd be looking for.
Everyone was hoping for success, but they were realistic of the chance.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-...
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#209It’s astounding that until very recently it was standard practice to put humans on top of untested, first-of-kind rockets.
"very recently" is more than 40 years ago, when the Space Shuttle made its first flight in 1981. That's closer in time to Sputnik than it is to today.
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Does it requieres a X(exTwitter) account? I'm going to miss it. :(
I am watching it here: https://www.youtube.com/live/6na40SqzYnU?si=t8iwk8rO3lAtF6wj Everyday Astronaut on youtube.
Their commenting be like:
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
Oh my god!