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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Yup. That's exactly what I predict Apple will do. RCS messaging will still have green bubbles. And it will continue to have the same psychological effect as SMS green bubbles do today. I think that's also why GP said there won't be a decline in iMessage usage.

So weird reading this from the transatlantic sidelines, where noone cares one little bit what device a message was sent from.

Nobody does, it’s a bitchy trope.

Green bubbles matter in group chats. You can’t easily change participants and stuff like reactions generate junk messages.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Why do you think that blue represents E2EE and not simply iMessage? If data isn't available and the iPhone sends an SMS, like you mentioned, the bubble is green, but this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with encryption. For example, the satellite SOS messages are represented as gray. It seems more like the color represents the transport.

Because blue means iMessage and iMessage means E2EE. Grey and Green means not encrypted. Simple.

Gray is encrypted to Apple, and then the information is (of course) shared with third parties. Would you consider that to be a private communication? Kind of. It's a gray area...

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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This is something I never thought I'd see. I hope the GSM association moves fast to make robust E2EE a standard required for proper implementation for carriers. That would go a long way in making a huge improvement over SMS/MMS. This is a win for RCS, ultimately. Maybe this will kick carriers into high gear to up their messaging standard support game and have standard interop. I don't think this will lead to a declin…

Reactions aren't in RCS? I thought that was one of the main motivators for it.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Should we expect that delivery status notification will work and be surfaced in the UI? I end up encouraging those who are on SMS to go to WhatsApp just because I can never be sure that the message was delivered. Working across many countries and providers, SMS is still very unreliable. There is no way in iOS to know if a green bubble got the message or not.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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I love when people comment on the color of a text message. It makes it real easy to know who to block, because they worry about entirely the wrong things.

There's no one to block, you just won't be included when the groupchat is setup. Big problem for teens.

I dunno. Sounds like being left out of those groups is a net positive.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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This is something I never thought I'd see. I hope the GSM association moves fast to make robust E2EE a standard required for proper implementation for carriers. That would go a long way in making a huge improvement over SMS/MMS. This is a win for RCS, ultimately. Maybe this will kick carriers into high gear to up their messaging standard support game and have standard interop. I don't think this will lead to a declin…

> I hope the GSM association moves fast to make robust E2EE a standard required for proper implementation for carriers. This is pretty moot now. Google has effectively turned RCS into a proprietary protocol, they fully control the only relevant server implementation, carriers that want to interconnect have no choice but to deploy Jibe or use Jibe as a service.

This could possibly open an avenue for another party to show up around this. Google de facto having reign on this is because they're the only company in this space that cared enough about it to get it moving.

Apple supporting RCS could create enough interest that it breaks their de facto control of the standard

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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> the green bubble shame set to end I'm betting the non-Apple bubbles will remain green... and remain a bit stigmatized. It was never about the resolution of pictures and even technical limitations around group chat was just part of it. It's a social thing and the technical protocol is incidental. Dr. Seuss probably explained it best in The Sneetches.

The moment you have a contact from any other country than your own, you'll quickly learn that green = huge carrier fees and blue = free texting that even works on wifi with data roaming off. Quadruply so for group chats.
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