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Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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If no one will tell you it’s illegally harvested, they’ll always be happy to tell you it’s legally harvested.

In which case they'd be lying and selling you something under false pretences. Obviously it can happen, but it's a risky thing and something a lot of businesses would want to avoid.

if they're willing to sell illegally harvested wood, then I don't think they have the scruples to care about being inaccurate in their sales pitch

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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Tree spiking is one example of this. It's so common as to be illegal in the United States [1]. Unfortunately, without strict worker protections, it's conceivable that workers would be the ones to pay for their employers' (or their upstream suppliers') illegal actions. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_spiking

It's not just conceivable, it is real. Workers in the mill are the ones who will die or suffer significant trauma when the blade hits the spike.

Eh, with one confirmed injury, I'm comfortable calling it "conceivable". The testimony of the injured worker in that case even reflects the fact that a spiked tree does not guarantee injury or death to the operator -- indeed, first there seems to be substantial damage to the machinery, and only then, a risk to the operator [1]:

> Alexander later filed a lawsuit against Louisiana-Pacific claiming that the band saw had been weakened from previous strikes with nails, but that he was forced to work with the saw or face dismissal.

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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I think I've seen it done locally, in the USA... "Forest Preserves" cutting down old growth maple/oaks, and piling the massive logs in parking lots until hauled away... I think I've also seen significant "over-pruning" for the sake of the construction of various pathways and "theme parks" for humans.

There are a number of diseases that oaks are susceptible to. In our area, oak wilt is becoming problematic, and as the tree weakens, it becomes host to a variety of beetles whose grub larvae tunnel right into the trunk. Pulling down sick trees is sometimes the best thing you can do to help the rest.

Could be. I saw more than 30+ massive logs and healthy piths in a back lot of the woods; stacked carefully before being removed; maple and oak. Given the level of local corruption, this forest management deserves the suspicion.

The city and the locality was recently accused of cutting down too many trees for numerous reasons/projects. Unless you are adamant, they are quite aggressive about killing things in parkways.

I think it would be better to leave things where they are in "Forest Preserves"... Maybe one day we'll have [unmanaged] old growth forests again.

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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> generating no waste Have you ever redone flooring? Because there's definitely waste when hardwood floors are refinished. Arguably equal to replacing a segment of PVC flooring. But... The amount reflooring we do, it's not even a concern. Even if PVC comes from oil - flooring has years of service and isn't burned for fuel. It's what we call "durable goods". Quality PVC flooring doesn't scratch easily and doesn't requ…

Having worked on and lived with both, I'd rather cut out a section of parquet and replace it than refinish a hardwood floor. IMHO the problem with hardwood is that it takes regular maintenance that nobody really wants to do. The luminous floors in old buildings look that way because they've been oiled and buffed by people on their hands and knees for a hundred years.

I'm not saying that hardwood floors are bad.

I'm saying that PVC or laminate flooring(much more common) is absolutely not a concern for climate change. "They come from oil" is an illogical argument for durable goods.

In addition - when you cut a part of the hardwood flooring, your new piece will not look the same without a lot of work. Specially for hardwood flooring that is more than a few decades old.

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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Don’t wear outdoor shoes inside. We asians figured this out generations ago.

Are there cultures where people actually wear shoes throughout their homes? Taking your shoes off is absolutely not a uniquely asian thing.

Back home, not only do we not wear shoes in the house, we wash our feet anytime we enter after leaving the house.

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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Are there cultures where people actually wear shoes throughout their homes? Taking your shoes off is absolutely not a uniquely asian thing.

> Are there cultures where people actually wear shoes throughout their homes? American culture? Way too many movies I've watched feature americans wearing shoes while lying down on their beds . Always weirded me out.

I always assumed that was just a television thing.

Re: Exclusive hardwood may be illegally harvested

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How did you like Accoya? I've been thinking about using it for a few projects.

It’s absolutely gorgeous and very very expensive. Unlike the other comment I absolutely can tell the difference between synthetic and natural woods and in general while I don’t have a blanket issue with man-made materials, I do have an issue with ersatz anything, almost to the degree of having an allergy. For that reason I was boxed into real woods, and from a sustainability (and toxicity) and performance perspective…

Sounds like a good quality lumber. Do you happen to know the price you paid for it? Last I got a quote was before the pandemic but it was around $6 to $7 per boardfoot which at the time was very comparable to hard maple.

I'm out of the loop on current lumber prices.

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