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Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

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Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

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Almost total absence of GUIs and proper documentation. A big part of why people pay for AWS and friends is not instant scalability or even the fancy features, but simply because clouds wrap a half-way decent GUI around high level server oriented tasks combined with an actual task focused user guide. To compare, try comparing the docs and GUI help you get deploying a simple serverless app to Lambda+RDS vs configuring…

Thanks for sharing that. I think the documentation aspect is often overlooked. Even RedHat's subscriber-only documentation is ... quite dense, and yet, not very deep.

They're trying to document a system that wasn't designed with usability or GUIs in mind and they have a perverse incentive to keep Linux hard to use because that drives support subscriptions.

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While Jira does many many things right, it is also horrible in so many ways. What options are you evaluating?

YouTrack by Jetbrains is very good

It's nice, has most of Jira features that were important for my org. Philosophy is bit different in some parts (eg. backlog management), so there was some complaining, but overall it's ok.

Only one major complaint: For main license, you can buy and own license for selfhosted version. However for helpdesk addon it's subscription only, which sucks a lot. For Spaces they have only subscription-based pricing, even when self-hosted. I hope they don't go Atlassian way.

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Using Atlassian cloud products is a business risk. They previously let customers sit for weeks without access to their data [1]. Cloud-hosted products do get early patches for unsecured /setup routes though [2], so there's that. At this point the decision has been made in our org to firewall their products off the internet and internal networks, and migrate to something else by 2024. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?q=atl…

As a former Atlassian administrator, I believe the opposite. Maintaining the system on-premise was a bigger risk. The products are too complicated to be packaged nearly with a bow for sysadmins. You inevitably start having to become at Atlassian SME just to keep that shit running. I’m all for your company going with an alternative product, but for a company who would rather stick with Atlassian products, you’d be ins…

Completely opposite here. We ran jira for many years on-prem, it was mostly effortless - maybe a few man/days per year? (user accounts in low 3 digits, but we kept workflows simple and ran light on plugins).

I'm curious what were actually tasks that wasted your time?

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Has anyone identified an easy/feasible way to add SSO authentication to github pages?

We use azure ad for authn to our github organization. That also covers github pages generated from those repos.

I assume that means that every person accessing the pages also needs a github account? I don't mind a requirement for a github account for anyone contributing to the repo but I would like authenticated access for viewing the pages that doesn't require a Github account.

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While Jira does many many things right, it is also horrible in so many ways. What options are you evaluating?

Linear is awesome

Linear is very much awesome. Still some work to make it really great, but it's awesome right now.
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