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Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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If you're still upset about loot boxes in games you're probably 3 years late to the party.

if you're still upset about climate change you're probably 30 years late to the party.

Games have pretty much entirely moved on from loot boxes. There's a few holdouts (FIFA/EAFC), but most games have moved on from that.

We're still in the phase of climate change denial though.

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Sometimes I think, that green policies are not stopped by Big Oil but undermined. You see, in many countries green policies are tied with rejection of nuclear power plants, which is much more effective and sustainable than all solar & wind sources. When I've lived in Russia, I've donated to Green Peace and WWF, because they helps a lot to save Nature Reserves, oppose predatory laws which allows to exploit Protected A…

How is nuclear power much more sustainable than solar and wind energy?

It takes much less space (including storage for waste of current generation power plants, and we could close fuel cycle if we spent a tiny fraction of money used to whitewash oil companies to this research) that all fields of wind generators and solar panels. Also, modern nuclear station has resource much larger than modern wind generators, which is made of glass and resin. Nuclear power plant don't take space needed to graze cattle and seed crops, don't kill soil with vibration as wind turbines, don't change local micro climate as solar panels deployed on square kilometers. "Only" problem with nuclear plant is possible terrorist attack (modern control systems should exclude manual control and Chernobyl scenario).

Yes, uranium is theoretically finite, but only now known reserves is enough for something like 100'000 years on current level of power production of whole planet (not current power production of existing nuclear power plants, but total power production as-if it is made only by nuclear plants). And it is not all reserves for sure, and in 100'000 years, I hope, fusion power plants will be reality

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Sometimes I think, that green policies are not stopped by Big Oil but undermined. You see, in many countries green policies are tied with rejection of nuclear power plants, which is much more effective and sustainable than all solar & wind sources. When I've lived in Russia, I've donated to Green Peace and WWF, because they helps a lot to save Nature Reserves, oppose predatory laws which allows to exploit Protected A…

> because their agenda is not about nature reserves and factory waste treatment, but, first, anti-nuclear-plant and then anti-travel, antu-car-ownership, etc. All of these things are indeed stupid imo, typical EU green party style navel gazing. The one I kind of agree with is anti-car-ownership, but it’s an extremely poor treatment of the symptom, where the decease is poor (and in many cases irreversible) city planni…

Problem is, there is no good way for long way travel but airplane or car. Flights become ridiculous expensive (thanks to green movent too), and if you don't own car...

It becomes middle ages again: you live all you life in one city, you eat only local food ("we don't need oranges all year around" from other comment in this thread), you wash with cold water (to conserve energy), you wear thick, warm clothes even indoor at winter (same). Yes, you have antibiotics and, may be, good dentist, if you could afford it. Thank you.

I'm joking about middle ages, but as they say every joke contains some part of joke...

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Someone has a problem? I will bring my problem!

I don't have a problem with people having problems. I have plenty of problems. What I do not like is putting absolute statements like "never seen anything more disgusting". That usually just means you are not looking hard enough. But, the fact that I have a problem with this relativization of everything does not mean I think problems people do not consider "the most disgusting" should not be tackled. Look at my count…

I think they were just speaking hyperbolically…

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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Sometimes I think, that green policies are not stopped by Big Oil but undermined. You see, in many countries green policies are tied with rejection of nuclear power plants, which is much more effective and sustainable than all solar & wind sources. When I've lived in Russia, I've donated to Green Peace and WWF, because they helps a lot to save Nature Reserves, oppose predatory laws which allows to exploit Protected A…

> because their agenda is not about nature reserves and factory waste treatment, but, first, anti-nuclear-plant and then anti-travel, antu-car-ownership, etc. All of these things are indeed stupid imo, typical EU green party style navel gazing. The one I kind of agree with is anti-car-ownership, but it’s an extremely poor treatment of the symptom, where the decease is poor (and in many cases irreversible) city planni…

And one more: I don't know about which parts of the world you are speaking of.

I've relocated to the Netherlands half a year ago, and I'm living in Amstelveen, it is Amsterdam's satellite town.

It is "well known" that the Netherlands is very car-less-friendly country.

But no, it is not in reality. Especially if you could not ride bicycle, as my wife. There is 2 shops with limited selection of basic food in walking distance from our apartments (and it is apartments in multi-store building, not some cottage in the middle of the fields), and it's it. You need something other? You need to take tram, which costs at leas 1.8 euro one way (2.9 euro to the Amsterdam itself) and maybe shop you need will be near the one of the stops of this tram (if you are lucky). You need IKEA, really big supermarket, something like this? Good luck to get there without taxi.

It is very frustrating. I didn't own car previously, but I'm thinking about it now.

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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I understand this is cringe, but: > one of the many entities directly responsible for destroying our planet Do any of you believe this narative? Honest question: isn't the destruction of the planet due to the 8 billion people that have to be fed, clothed, housed, entertained? Aren't fossil fuels directly responsible for the industrial revolution and people not starving anymore? I get that "Big Oil" might have delayed…

Is this where allowing this type of rhetoric on HN ultimately evolves to, dipshit climate change deniers from undeveloped third world countries spouting brainless propoganda counterpoints to "the narrative" that using oil on the scale that we do harms the environment?

extremely disappointing

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I understand this is cringe, but: > one of the many entities directly responsible for destroying our planet Do any of you believe this narative? Honest question: isn't the destruction of the planet due to the 8 billion people that have to be fed, clothed, housed, entertained? Aren't fossil fuels directly responsible for the industrial revolution and people not starving anymore? I get that "Big Oil" might have delayed…

Yes, this narrative should be stopped. Nothing is getting destroyed.

Let's tell the people who live in the Niger Delta this.

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Should have fact checked myself on that one.

The US were for a long time. But now it’s China. Although they already are the biggest producer of green energy world wide. They produce more green energy than all other countries combined. I don’t know if their strategy will drastically reduce their carbon emissions soon, for now they are still rising. In Europe and the US they are going down a while already (also because we moved a lot of our industry to china).

Correct. China is moving the fastest in large 5 economies to decarbonize their economy.

They produce and install more solar panels then every other country combined.

Re: Shell using Fortnite, TikTok, etc. to convince kids fossil fuels are cool

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post #186

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The US were for a long time. But now it’s China. Although they already are the biggest producer of green energy world wide. They produce more green energy than all other countries combined. I don’t know if their strategy will drastically reduce their carbon emissions soon, for now they are still rising. In Europe and the US they are going down a while already (also because we moved a lot of our industry to china).

Correct. China is moving the fastest in large 5 economies to decarbonize their economy. They produce and install more solar panels then every other country combined.

Yes, it's impressive what they are doing. But I think their total amount of carbon emissions are still rising in total. So their energy consumption seems to grow faster than their green energy production.

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How is nuclear power much more sustainable than solar and wind energy?

It takes much less space (including storage for waste of current generation power plants, and we could close fuel cycle if we spent a tiny fraction of money used to whitewash oil companies to this research) that all fields of wind generators and solar panels. Also, modern nuclear station has resource much larger than modern wind generators, which is made of glass and resin. Nuclear power plant don't take space needed…

As I understood it, we only have access to a few decades worth of high-grade uranium. After that we’re left with low-grade uranium which is hard to mine and refine - which incidentally you need fossil fuels to do (the mining part)

With regard to space needed: imagine if every existing building had roof top solar panels. We’d get quite far. I think we have the space for a few wind turbines to get us the final few kWh.

What do you think we should do with nuclear waste?

And how do you feel about giving every country in the world access to technology that also lets them develop nuclear weapons? Or should a select group of countries be environmentally conscious and the rest use fossil fuels? Renewables can be given to every country without risk.

This article has some interesting insights with regards to nuclear vs renewable energy: https://energypost.eu/renewable-energy-versus-nuclear-dispel...

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