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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Xeamek »

Darky wrote: post #117
retskrad wrote: post #112

The Pixel has like 1% of smartphone market and Google has been making their down devices for 10 years now! I have two questions: 1. Why hasn’t Google pulled the plug and thrown in the white towel yet? People have voted with their wallets and chosen Samsung and Apple. 2. Why is the Pixel devices getting such a massive news coverage? Other smartphone ORM’s with similar market share doesn’t get the same treatment.

1. it's not a vote, it's a market. 2. Pixel devices set the standard for every other android phones. the coverage is legit.

How do pixels set the standard any differenty then samsungs?

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Post by cdchn »

willseth wrote: post #74

Is anyone else confused by the inclusion of a temperature sensor? Was there a demo that explains why anyone would want this? What?

Maybe part of face unlock like liveness detectors for fingerprint scanners.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by proee »

hbn wrote: post #149
daft_pink wrote: post #116

Snoozer like the iPhone 15 release. No real innovation, just a new chip, improved cameras, and a bunch of waxing and waning about premium materials that I will never see again after I slap a case on it.

Why do people expect to be blown away every year? Most people upgrade their phone every 2-3 years. This isn't the early smartphone days where there was tons of room for improvement. Moore's law has gotten increasingly closer to ending, screens are as pixel dense as necessary, and people generally are satisfied with the capabilities of their phone. Starting around 2017 smartphones as we know them peaked and so they ju…

There is tons of room for innovation in phones, but most companies don't want to risk deviating from what consumers think they want (just like Hollywood movies).

I'm sure the HN crowd could come together and form a list of 100 ideas that are truly innovative in the phone space. However, these ideas are quite risky to bring to market.

Some ideas:

1. Super Amazing Sound playback (next level) 2. Rollable display 3. More I/O (for 3rd party ecosystems)

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by Eumenes »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

> It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones.

These companies virtue signal about climate change nonstop, but still manage to produce disposable phones and light up their data centers for advertising and user tracking

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by yccs27 »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

Yeah, it feels like smartphones are finally maturing, and they are no longer new enough to justify the fast release cycles and short support times.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by wnevets »

nicbou wrote: post #12

6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Maybe I have abnormally large hands & pockets but the Pixel 6 Pro w/case size is really good. I am always annoyed when I have to use someone's phone and their tiny screen.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by kimbernator »

karolist wrote: post #187
kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

Not everyone lives on the same upgrade cycle, you can, but you're not supposed to change your phone every year. With iPhone 15, the majority of people upgrading would be 12 and older device owners.

That is technically true. However, I do find that a lot of people I know tend to get new phones well before they actually have a need for them.

I don't entirely blame peoples' consumerism; As somebody who once worked in cell phone sales, the mere act of visiting a carrier store is likely to land you in front of a salesperson who is incentivized to sell new phones and lines indiscriminately. Not to mention the incredible amount of advertising that goes into phones - if people only upgraded when they needed new phones, I don't think Apple, Samsung, or Google would feel the need to advertise the new ones so aggressively.

HN is likely a much more tech-literate crowd than the average person, so I think to a lot of us it seems silly to buy new phones every year. But I know that every time Apple releases a new iPhone, I get a call from my dad asking if it's worth upgrading from last year's model. I say no, nothing has changed, but the next time I see him he has it. Why? Because the salesperson made such a convincing case, not only about the merit of the new phone, but the fact that they could give him such a "deal" on it.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by 01100011 »

deergomoo wrote: post #172

Comparing this to the regular Pixel 8 it doesn't look like you get an awful lot more for your extra £300, I'm surprised there's such a delta. Bigger screen (which for many is a minus not a plus), an extra 4GB RAM (still seems absurd to me that we need this much RAM on a phone) and more capable/additional auxiliary cameras. I suppose the charitable take is that £700 feels like a pretty good deal for the non-Pro one.

I'd love the telephoto camera for outdoor shots, but I can't stand the price or the size of the phone. Even with the Google Fi discount of $300, the price($500 with trade-in) is too much to justify.

I guess I'll stick with my Pixel 5A.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by mdgrech23 »

kimbernator wrote: post #178

It's starting to feel silly, having a yearly release cycle for smartphones. So much of this product page is focused on new software functions that may have some vague relationship with the slightly upgraded hardware, but that could mostly be released to existing phones. Every new iPhone, Pixel, or Samsung phone basically claims the camera is marginally better and hey, look at these software features that have very li…

man if you think that's bad let me introduce you to the automobile industry.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Post by torton »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #97
Tade0 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My SO is holding on to a first-gen iPhone SE for the exact same reason - I don't know what kind of hands manufacturers expect people to have, but at this point I'm all but certain that modern flagships are too large for most of the population.

If only 13 Mini battery wasn’t shit. I don’t need the 1000 mega pixel camera or M20 Apple cheap. Just give me a good battery and a non-crazy sized phone and I am good. And yeah take my money.

I have a 13 Mini. The battery is typically at 30-50% in the evening. Generally never have to worry about the charge during the day. Perhaps it's time to replace the battery if it's at 80% of health or below?

If I travel and have to use GPS most of the day / take hundreds of photos, I carry a small 5000 mAh battery to charge up on the go. I think it's a reasonable accommodation for a phone that's perfectly fine day-to-day.

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