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What will LLM-powered software look like in the medium-term future?

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Post by sensanaty »

ilaksh wrote: post #7

All of this makes sense. I would like to add my own prediction for 2027. I believe in the next 4 years, much more comfortable and capable mixed reality glasses and goggles may be somewhat common. Also AI generation and streaming of realistic avatars will have advanced. Quite possibly this will use low-latency Wifi to stream from a PC. So if you want, you will be able to have a fairly realistic representation of the A…

I'd rather chew gravel every day for the rest of my life than be forced into the hell of wearing a headset so that I can have my useless morning standups in a virtual room rather than on a 2D screen.

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Post by ypeterholmes »

geuis wrote: post #13

Ok. I appreciate they didn't use Medium as a blog post. There's a lot of good engineering knowledge currently locked behind the Medium "sign in" interface. It's dumb and stupid. But just to voice an opinion, please kill the lengthy paragraph levels of fluff in blog posts. I don't want to say my opinion is influenced by shitty blog recipes and research papers, but it is. So stop it. Just say what you need to say in bu…

I write on Medium and there's no paywall. The paywall is a choice to monetize.

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Post by nathan_gold »

b112 wrote: post #193
nathan_gold wrote: post #192

I can give a basic example of why chat-based UI will not dominate. Let's say I want to change a setting that uses a traditional radio button UI: - Autoscale servers - Manual scale servers It's much easier to discover, understand the options, and make a decision via a radio button UI than to ask for my options via chat. That would look like: "I'm having load issues on my servers. Can you increase the server capacity?"…

That's just a worse UX. So are touchscreens, especially in cars. Physical buttons are far better for the end user. Imagine a future when all people know is blah blah to use computers, can't type, never see buttons, and barely read any more. Now is it a bad UX? (Before the Internet, the majority of people rarely read. And even now, most people don't read, they tiktok, they youtube.)

touchscreens aren't the dominant UX in cars, and I bet once Tesla has enough EV competition, it will get rid of its touchscreen too.

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Post by two_in_one »

smokel wrote: post #153
croo wrote: post #83

I'll tell you my vision which is kinda long term - like 20-30 year from now on. I think the future is that everyone will have their own personalized AI assistant on their phone. Internet as it is will be mostly useless because only robots will be able to wade through the generated shit ocean and the next generation will see it as the current see the TV - unimportant old boring low-entropy data which is not entertaini…

In 20-30 years I most certainly do not want to use a phone anymore. I grew up without the things, and boy was that fun.

If you grew up before phones then don't worry. You man not live this long.

But seriously there will be some communication device or chip implant. And 'personal' assistant will be just a presentation of a software running 'in the cloud' and controlled by big corporation. With no privacy at all. Which makes it a spyware through which government can track and control crowd.

That's sounds like dystopia, but having a tracking device on almost every person was unimaginable not so long ago. Today it's a norm. Big corporations have and sell your location in real time.

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Post by tines »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #182
tines wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that this will all function as one giant homogenizing force at the societal level? The AIs will all be trained on the same data, and so will have the same opinions, beliefs, persuasions, etc. It seems like everyone having AIs which are mostly the same will maximize exploitation, and minimize exploration, of ideas.

Is that any different than media before the internet consumed it all? Media consisted of a couple of news stations, a couple of TV stations and that was mostly it. I'm also not sure that the recent broadening of media has been a net benefit to society. Look at the degree of polarization in recent years. At a certain point heterogeneity is no longer a societal good.

No, you're correct, media is also a homogenizing force. Regional accents have disappeared, for example. But I would argue that even the political polarization is homogenization, not evidence of heterogeneity, because the variety of the middle was eliminated, leaving the consolidated extremes.

My point is that personal llms will be an even greater force along this same line.

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Post by nmeagent »

wbm1 wrote: post #100
croo wrote: post #83

I'll tell you my vision which is kinda long term - like 20-30 year from now on. I think the future is that everyone will have their own personalized AI assistant on their phone. Internet as it is will be mostly useless because only robots will be able to wade through the generated shit ocean and the next generation will see it as the current see the TV - unimportant old boring low-entropy data which is not entertaini…

An LLM/AI companion based on your ledger, that grows and evolves with you, acting as a sort of Socratic daimon, a psychologic twin, assistant, advisor, and sparring partner. Like a journal that talks back and thinks with you. It'd need to be only personally accessible and safe/private. Biometric access and local running could solve this.

> a psychologic twin, assistant, advisor, and sparring partner

and snitch.

> It'd need to be only personally accessible and safe/private.

IMO there's very little chance that such a thing won't report or sell every conceivable shred of your existence to governments and corporations.

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Post by kyleyeats »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #187
kyleyeats wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are three types of intelligence: intuitive, cognitive and narrative. Tech has, for years, seen people with cognitive/narrative intelligence as the people who are actually smart. LLMs help the intuitive people reach the level of the cognitive/narrative people. Cognitive/narrative people can't really understand this in the same way the intuitive people are bad at syntax or database structure. The steamrolling wil…

Could you give a concrete example of where ChatGPT is likely to provide a competitive advantage to intuitive people with weak cognitive/narrative capabilities?

Regex.

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Post by b112 »

nathan_gold wrote: post #203
b112 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a worse UX. So are touchscreens, especially in cars. Physical buttons are far better for the end user. Imagine a future when all people know is blah blah to use computers, can't type, never see buttons, and barely read any more. Now is it a bad UX? (Before the Internet, the majority of people rarely read. And even now, most people don't read, they tiktok, they youtube.)

touchscreens aren't the dominant UX in cars, and I bet once Tesla has enough EV competition, it will get rid of its touchscreen too.

Sadly, they are becoming so.

The Ford Mustang, not the E, an ICE car, 2024, has 4? touchscreen clicks, to adjust the defrost.

There is no physical button for this.

Many new cars are this way now.

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Post by kyleyeats »

gumballindie wrote: post #173
kyleyeats wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you calling me a shitty manager? Would you say this to my face? What's wrong with you?

I am not, but there's a tendency among those types that categorise people into narrow sets that they can understand. Also your statement doesn't much make sense. Being a good developer means you understand a wide range of issues, not just spelling in a language and adding if statements. The combination of personalities vary wildly. To be fair, LLMs if anything, will help developers become better managers, simply beca…

> I am not, but there's a tendency among those types that categorise people into narrow sets that they can understand

Those types huh

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Post by deelly »

bumbledraven wrote: post #130
deelly wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know exactly why I don't want to use ChatGPT. I love to write code, I love to modify existing code too. I do not love to read and then fix code after someone all the time. With ChatGPT I have to read then understand then fix code after ChatGPT every time. Also, I do not love to fix code that often contains hallucination.

First, are you sure using GPT-4? Second, have you tried pasting any syntax errors you get back into the chat window? Usually, GPT will try to fix them. Third, you can have GPT write a function for you and then write a different version of the function using a different algorithm along with a test (e.g. a fuzz test) to check whether two functions produce the same output given the same input. This makes it less likely…

Yes, I used chatGPT-4.

Second, your fix is to verify code generated by LLM and then play with it trying to find a way to fix it. I`m quite sure that I will spend less time and less mental power by writing code in the first place.

Third fix is to play with chatGPT more, and read more code generated by chatGPT trying to find errors in it.

What happened with "reading code written by someone else is harder than writing your own code"?

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