New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

Post by gordian-not » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:46 PM UTC

smegger001 wrote: post #102

gordian-not wrote: post #59

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So, just from the top of my head and rather recently: 1. the NSA lost all of its malwares/zero days to the Russians 2. The NSA lost a huge amount of documents detailing a large amount of their billion dollars sigint sources and tech catalog 3. China was able to steal US nuclear weapons design 4. The CIA itself lost its entire internal wiki 5. Top secret documents were on discord for over a month Yet somehow these omn…

The key to all of those is they are digital files easily copied and deseminated online. It hard to hack a mechanical typewriter and or to exfiltrate physical documents locked in a filing cabinet in a secure facility. Then distributing them en mass the way the way digital channels like discord can is just not managable unless your a major news paper publisher. Digital information wants to be free, typewriten documents…

Post by varelse » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:49 PM UTC

whartung wrote: post #183

xyzelement wrote: post #118

Not directly related to this article, but I found the lone gunman theory much easier to accept after visiting the museum in the former book depository in Dallas. You can look down onto the plaza from the exact spot Oswald shot from, and you can easily imagine how the bullet fired from there would go through JFK and into the governor sitting in front of him. Not that this proves anything, it was just a "oh, I can tang…

Years ago, on Discovery or History channel, I watched a show where they replicated the “magic bullet” shot. The magic bullet was the one that hit the President and the Governor, that apparently went all zig zag, and left a pristine bullet. For the experiment they had all the measurements and distances, detailed ballistic dummies (with bones and whatnot), positioned properly (the Governor was on a smaller, lower jump…

Post by squeaky-clean » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:53 PM UTC

gordian-not wrote: post #90

overrun11 wrote: post #67

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Organizations keep secrets all the time. A huge amount of American history is learned after the fact when documents are declassified.

So despite countless of soviet spies in the FBI and CIA, the end of the cold war, defectors and open archives The JFK assassination still remained a secret?

Post by avgcorrection » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:55 PM UTC

jazzyjackson wrote: post #197

avgcorrection wrote: post #193

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That's what I said.

you have to remember this "elites vs the rest of us" is not a universal narrative, I wasn't around back then but I get the sense that a significant portion of the population believed that the government was actually doing work on behalf of the people, not in opposition.. "I’m from the government and I’m here to help." wasn't said til 1986

Post by tasogare » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 8:56 PM UTC

jl6 wrote: post #188

kelnos wrote: post #98

Even if Landis is being honest to the best of his ability, this account seems suspect for one simple reason: human memory is incredibly unreliable even in routine cases. Considering the stress and trauma around witnessing and being so close to an awful event like that, as well as the amount of time that has passed, I don't see how we can consider this story to be even remotely reliable. He may truly remember these ev…

I am reminded of an incident relayed to me by an office worker in the early 2000s. A colleague had left the building at lunchtime and had been witness to some kind of shooting incident where robbers or gang members on motorcycles had opened fire on someone or something else - I don’t think it was ever discovered what the target or cause was. This was in South America, so not a wholly unusual scenario. But the debrief…