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Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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I pay for YouTube premium and have never seen an ad. Not sure what's happening with you.

Half of the content on YouTube could be considered to be an ad by itself. Also sponsors are being advertised regularly within videos which I would consider to be ads too

There's always SponsorBlock: https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Well, for the field in question, I imagine that it should be easy to distinguish meaningful content from whatever it defaults to when the field is missing.

Anyway, none of this would be a problem if the TLS tunnel broke because the cert failed to validate against an issuer pin shipped with the app.

Maybe the reason they don’t do this is that many enterprise networks break up TLS.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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> It does tend to get me profiled as a "bot" by CloudFlare Since Cloudflare employees are known to lurk here, I'd like to know: is this considered a false positive, or working as intended?

Not a CF employee but I am pretty sure it's working as intended as they built and use this: https://github.com/cloudflare/mitmengine

Use this to evade it: https://github.com/lwthiker/curl-impersonate

Greetings from a country whose (almost) entire IP space is blacklisted by Cloudflare!

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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If you continue to give Google money you'll continue to get things like AMP, Manifest V3, Web "Integrity", and whatever else they think up to track you across the web. They're an ad company. They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content producers.

I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…

No, they're not going to leave money on the table. Eventually you'll be seeing ads too. This is just a hook period. I don't understand how we as a culture haven't learned this already. This is at least the fourth or fifth generation of this with media. How things actually work should be common sense by now.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.

I understand the sentiment, but the creators actually only got peanuts (most don't even see any money) out of your $13 while the rest go to Google. You are paying Google for youtube, and Google pay (some) content creators with a tiny fraction of your subscription money.

Do you have numbers to back your claim?

Afaik From ad revenue channels get 55%. They also get money from premium subscribers depending on how much time they spent on channel. I wouldn't call it peanuts.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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This reads like an ad. I wouldn't support them that way. They shaft creators in every way possible. You should be subscribing to Patreons and their video subscriptions. YouTube Premium is NOT the way.

> YouTube Premium is NOT the way. So have 100 different Patreon subscriptions each month? The minimum pledge is $1. What if I watch 200 different YT creators? What about the short videos? Should I create a new Patreon subscription for each individual creator I watch? What if my interests frequently change (they do). Should I spend hours per month managing individual Patreon subscriptions? The original post is about b…

> I guess this could be true that YT "shaft[s] creators in every way possible". If this were true, I'm somehow guessing that not basically everyone would show their videos there, don't you think?

The fact that content creators are still using Youtube doesn't mean Youtube is not shafting content creators. Youtube has killed most of their competitors so it's not like content creators have other options right now, but I suspect new competitors will show up if Google continue to enshitify youtube.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…

No, they're not going to leave money on the table. Eventually you'll be seeing ads too. This is just a hook period. I don't understand how we as a culture haven't learned this already. This is at least the fourth or fifth generation of this with media. How things actually work should be common sense by now.

It seems to me that all of google's most successful services (search, youtube, gmail and gsuite, maps/earth, android) are next to impossible to monetize profitably and have significant utility to the general public. It feels like these are services that governments should be building and funding themselves.

Youtube specifically has a plethora of useful information made by normal people. You can find hundreds of thousands of videos, in most languages, about doing most basic and complex repairs for almost any model of car made in the last few decades, for example. It is essentially a giant public library.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.

I'm also intensely Youtube positive, even if I don't like ads or google.

Youtube is one of the best things on the internet. The shame is that it's centralized with a single point of failure.

The upsides of youtube are enormous - people learn a lot there. It's not just nerds learning about stuff, but everyone. How do I fix this thing on my car, etc? People show and tell about all kinds of topics. This is making people more knowledgeable and capable on a citizen level(!)

The written word champions here will have to realize that for some, videos are a superior medium for transmitting know-how.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#209

I've been MITM'ing my traffic to, among other things, strip ads and rewrite pages with things like custom CSS, ever since I discovered The Proxomitron over 2 decades ago. It does tend to get me profiled as a "bot" by CloudFlare and such, but there are not-so-trivial ways around that too. It also shows why things like remote attestation are hazardous for user freedom.

> The Proxomitron Googling this, development ended in 2004? An informed summary of the current state of play would be interesting, since a lot of different "continuations" of it seem to be around. Also, is it Windows-only? (I've been casually looking for a simple proxy that would enable injection of local links into remote content.)

Privacy might be what you're after. Open source and cross platform.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #149

I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.

If you continue to give Google money you'll continue to get things like AMP, Manifest V3, Web "Integrity", and whatever else they think up to track you across the web. They're an ad company. They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content producers.

So if they were to stop, the crisis would be averted?
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