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Arm Announces Public Filing for Proposed Initial Public Offering

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Post by Lio »

klelatti wrote: post #51
Sealy wrote: post #13

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Sadly the UK has a long history of sending its own tech industry abroad... It begun with the invention of the computer as we know it... - Charles Babbage,"Father of the computer", British - Alan Turing, "Father of modern computer science", British Then there was Margret Thatcher who decided the internet was a fad and wasn't worth investing in internet infrastructure in the country. Where did the multi billion (if not…

No fan of Thatcher, but she left power before the world-wide-web even left CERN.

True but the driver before the world wide web would have been cable TV over fibre to the home.

She decided it was better to open the market to foreign cable TV providers and so barred BT from selling TV access.

Without TV there was no driver for fibre investment.

Where BT would have had a requirement to provide universal access to fibre, as with phone provision, Telewest and NTL just did geograhically limited roll outs of legacy coax and the rest is history.

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Post by nocoiner »

S_A_P wrote: post #194

I’m curious and haven’t seen anything regarding the ip theft of ARM by (???). Didn’t the Chinese arm of the business get taken over in some way? It made the news a few years back and nothing ever came out of it.

The Chinese subsidiary basically declared independence. Last I saw the two sides were at an impasse, and the Chinese sub was continuing to do its own thing - ARM parent appeared clearly to have the law and the facts on its side, but without the ability to enforce a foreign law judgment or get into an unbiased local court, what are you going to do?

Forget it, Jake. It’s China.

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Post by azinman2 »

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #65
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #14

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> Bit of a downer for the UK to see them list in the US I wonder to what extent the overarching business culture of the UK (which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession) might have anything to do with it. (...speaking as a former UK eng myself)

> I wonder to what extent the overarching business culture of the UK (which I'd categorise as being generally apathetical, if not hostile, to the engineering profession) might have anything to do with it. That's nothing to do with it - the company is only listing on NASDAQ - ARM has office all over the world but will still be based and managed in the UK along with most of its employees (engineers) like when it was ow…

Are there really big capital inventors who will say “nope I don’t work on that exchange”?

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Post by kmlx »

joelthelion wrote: post #174
kmlx wrote: post #20

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> It's generally not a good business to invest in. i agree. > Arm reported $524 million in net income on $2.68 billion in revenue in its fiscal 2023, which ended in March i find the current valuation ludicrous, and it seems like it's pushed more by Softbank's Vision Fund than a firm grasp in reality.

If you think about it, should any of the major players buy ARM and shut it down to the competition, the other players would be in deep trouble (Samsung, Apple, AWS, Google all depend fairly deeply on ARM). That has the potential to drive valuation up a bit, no?

zero chance of any regulators agreeing to this plan.

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Post by kalleboo »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #109
scrlk wrote: post #104

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So I need the correct "old boys" school tie and a pair of red trousers to get funded by UK investors? :^)

Make that knee-high grey shorts, a graze on your knee, and a Prefect following closely behind you with some implement of abuse.

And find a pig that catches your eye

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Post by extraduder_ire »

frutiger wrote: post #155
pjc50 wrote: post #137

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If you ask people in the street to name a famous living British technologist, they might come up with Tim Berners-Lee or James Dyson, but they are never going to name Sophie Wilson. (I wonder what answers you would get?)

Alan Turing (on the £5 note) and Isambard Kingdom Brunel maybe?

£50 pound note, william churchill is the one on the £5 note.

This is burned into my brain. because I heard a joke when the redesign came out about him going from not being accepted by his country to not being accepted in Lidl. (£50 notes are often refused in the UK for fear of counterfeit.)

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Post by Fluorescence »

hnhg wrote: post #140
Fluorescence wrote: post #128

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Nah, the OP is talking bollocks. The angels I know are all middle/working-class entrepreneurs. There is no upper-class conspiracy holding people back, there just isn't much money. Non-Brits don't really understand that class is not money. Red trousers are closer to farmers than businessmen. If you are British and want to be a tech investor, you go to the US too.

Thanks for the kind words. I actually agree a lot with what you say, and would just add my personal experiences, and be interested in learning more, but I don't think you established the tone for further conversation here.

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Post by extraduder_ire »

kriro wrote: post #153
sentinalien wrote: post #124

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They're fairly competitive compared to the rest of the world. He is also working for a US company who could pay him more if they really wanted to. US salaries are high because the US has a glut of engineering jobs and is also a difficult place to immigrate to (generally requires you to have family ties or a job offer which is not easy to obtain when you might not be granted a work visa and won't realistically be able…

In what world is the post-Brexit UK immigration system lax?

Compared to the US system of workers' visas, it's incredibly lax. Unless I'm misinformed. I haven't had to think about it much though, as I'm an Irish citizen and can come and go as I please.

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Post by bemusedthrow75 »

fidotron wrote: post #181
ethbr1 wrote: post #158

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Microsoft minted many fortunes by leaving valuable profit margins around for third party developers. It's a longer game, so hopefully ARM employees still own some equity.

Where are these third party developers that made decent money and Microsoft didn’t subsequently try to eat their piece of the pie? It is a repeated pattern and people are not stupid. (See also the Sherlock phenomenon with Apple). Valve, for example, have to invest in proton as the ultimate back up plan. For me personally that has proven quite helpful, but your initial business has to be wildly successful for you to b…

> and Microsoft didn’t subsequently try to eat their piece of the pie?

That second part wasn't in the original claim, though. The parent comment is right. Sure, 21st century Microsoft has come for the utilities market, for the Lotus-to-Evernote market, etc., etc., but an entire software industry really did spring up in the eighties through to the early 2000s filling gaps in Microsoft software.

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