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Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by michaelmrose »

speedgoose wrote: post #143
michaelmrose wrote: post #119

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It takes 10 seconds to find high quality content without crawling the underbelly of the internet. Hell if you are so included your torrent client can find it for you without actually opening your browser and drop in in your jellyfin media directory where its indexed by the time it finishes downloading. I literally end up doing this for things I'm actually paying for when I want to watch the high quality version on a…

Please share because a source of high quality content isn’t easily found. Unless you are into blockbusters I guess.

Well this is probably not the best place to link to pirated movies but I was able in 10 seconds to find options both on google and within the integrated search function a popular opensource torrent client. I would suggest it is incredibly easy to find. I'm sure you can do it if you so choose.

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Post by nemo8551 »

post-it wrote: post #27
afavour wrote: post #10

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Sure but pirating all your VOD content is never a mass-market viable solution.

It sure is me-market viable though.

I’m totally not saying I agree and would definitely do it myself……but yes.

100% yes.

I’ve been plex for a while but jellyfin looks like I might have a choice of service in future.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

HWR_14 wrote: post #63
Workaccount2 wrote: post #33

The trickle down effects of Apple being a $3T corporation that is widely beloved and did it all on the back of a fiercely guarded walled garden.

The difference is I feel Apple's walls protect me as well as their profits. I do not feel the same about Amazon/Microsoft/Meta/Google.

I suppose there's some truth to that as long as you recognise that for Apple, profits come first. This whole new "private & secure" thing on their end is pure marketing/business.

They didn't give two shits about it until they realised that it was a major issue of their competitors, now it's become their core features/marketing. But don't think for one second that the protective wall won't spring a leak or two if it can make Apple a profit.

Apple's dominance also comes from them cornering every possible market they can, they want to do everything themselves and monopolise as much as possible, their recent step was designing their own processors, the debacle with them trying to make their own cellular modems etc. Maybe they'll go for displays next but Samsung et al are so far ahead on that game.

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Post by driscoll42 »

sithadmin wrote: post #64
Liquix wrote: post #54

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Plex Inc. is not a good company. They are eager to collect and sell your data to advertisers. Jellyfin is a great alternative. Plex may share Collected Information as expressly set forth in this Privacy Policy, including the following limited situations: [...] With third parties to improve and deliver advertising to you on our behalf. Plex may also use third-party advertising companies to serve ads, which may, direct…

As lousy as Plex (both the company and the product) have become, there really aren't alternatives with feature-parity available. Jellyfin is starting to get there in terms of basic media center functionality, but still faces stability and platform compatibility issues that have been long-solved by Plex. Jellyfin also lags behind in ecosystem support/integration for those of us operating media servers with heavy amoun…

What is particularly lousy about Plex as a product? Overall I'm quite satisfied with it, it's gotten better over the past few years noticeably I felt with the downloads actually working, collections, more suggestions, etc... I will say the genre filter for movies/shows is quite useless though.

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Post by paul7986 »

taeric wrote: post #197
paul7986 wrote: post #192

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Cool I'll stick to my out of the box thinking ...it's never popular on here but in the end future proves to be on the money in a few years we will see many streamers Consolidate and to compete against the biggest streaming apps YouTube and TikTok more free offerings will be available and or cheaper ones. Hollywood 'S push to go AI is a smart money saving one

I confess I don't know what you are saying here. :( I should also ack that I do actually subscribe to some twitch channels. I have no problem saying that these things are growing. Most evidence I am seeing shows not that they will supplant the old guard movies, but will grow along side them. This is not much different to video games as entertainment. I remember concerns that they would somehow replace physical sports…

Im saying attention spans are changing and in the TikTok demographic they are used to short form content. Heck even youTube added stupid short form content videos which now I watch on there. YouTube and TikTok are the two top streaming apps and they are free. They are more used then Netflix and all the others. Thus all the others will start competing with YouTube and Tiktok by merging .. like Disney Plus merging with HBO Max. They will offer more free alternatives to compete with Youtube and Tiktok too. Hollywood will still make money of course, but not as much as they have use to been making when they are competing against the top two streaming apps (YouTube and Tiktok) that are free.

TLDR summary Hollywood's biggest competition isn't between themselves but YouTube and Tiktok and how they are shaping and changing media consumption habits and thus the media landscape. To me the data I pointed out already shows this including 2023 lackluster box office results compared to 2022.

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Post by taeric »

paul7986 wrote: post #206
taeric wrote: post #197

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I confess I don't know what you are saying here. :( I should also ack that I do actually subscribe to some twitch channels. I have no problem saying that these things are growing. Most evidence I am seeing shows not that they will supplant the old guard movies, but will grow along side them. This is not much different to video games as entertainment. I remember concerns that they would somehow replace physical sports…

Im saying attention spans are changing and in the TikTok demographic they are used to short form content. Heck even youTube added stupid short form content videos which now I watch on there. YouTube and TikTok are the two top streaming apps and they are free. They are more used then Netflix and all the others. Thus all the others will start competing with YouTube and Tiktok by merging .. like Disney Plus merging with…

The evidence just isn't there to believe that any of the small streaming offerings are competing with long form videos. "Funniest Home Videos" is, not shockingly, on the drop. But long form entertainment is literally doing better than it ever has.

Yes, YouTube and the like have more viewers than some of the paid services. They aren't, necessarily, making more money with those viewers. And even odds on whether they could keep the viewers as they try to make money. My bet would probably be no, all told. Consider, radio has been free for ages. Even broadcast television was free. This did little or nothing to prevent paid services from growing.

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