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Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

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Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

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There's been a one-brick-thick wavy wall off a busy road in Cambridge for at least fifty years: https://goo.gl/maps/sxTsPW71F317gwK88 It kept getting hit by cars until they finally installed a guard rail.

Driving in the Boston area is hard enough already, we don't need to add wavy walls into the mix ;-)

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

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"Popularized in England" - maybe popularized, but such walls are by no means popular or common. "The county of Suffolk seems to be home to countless examples of these crinkle crankle walls. On freston.net you can find 100 wavy walls that have been documented and photographed." Although it's not explicitly said, let's suppose that every one of those wavy walls is in Suffolk. The population of the county is 761 350 - l…

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Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

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I feel like everyone this far is missing something, or perhaps just I am. I understand that a wavy wall will be stronger than a straight wall of the same thickness, therefore if you need that additional strength it technically uses fewer bricks to reach it. That said, if the alternative is a 2 layer straight wall, is the wavy wall equally as strong? Or is it just stronger than the single layer wall? Without knowing a…

Well, tbf the article doesn’t even try to explain how wavy walls are stronger than straight ones, or how fewer bricks are needed.

It doesn't need to, a child understands this. The only thing the article needed to explain was how the title should be interpreted, and it did fine in this respect.

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

#205

This feels a bit like diet clickbait... "use fewer bricks than a straight wall"* *A straight wall of the approximal strength and length of a wavy wall, not just length. My counter would be that from a practical perspective the amount of space wasted by the wavy design seems to negate the usefulness of the design. Probably makes the lawn crew dizzy when mowing it too!

The solution for the space problem is obvious: just make the wall wave in the longitudinal direction instead of the transversal direction.

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

#206

> these wavy walls actually use less bricks than a straight wall because they can be made just one brick thin, while a straight wall— without buttresses —would easily topple over. And what about a straight wall with buttresses? Can we make them just as sturdy with fewer bricks?

No, that’s sort of the point? There are fewer extra bricks used to make the curve than would be required to buttress / reinforce a straight wall.

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The religious group that funds it has a questionable relationship to science including and despite "Science" being in its name. (It was started as a 19th Century anti-hospital group. We'd consider them "proto-anti-vax" in today's concerns and terminology.) They may be unbiased in reporting the news, generally, but there's still concerns about their relationship to reporting science given their name and the known beli…

...being anti-hospital in the 19th century sounds fairly rational to me?

Sure, you can't fault them for not having some good reasons behind their beliefs, based on what they knew and experienced at the time. You can certainly fault them for calcifying those beliefs into an entire church with rituals/rites devoted to such beliefs that then became somewhat obstinate in the face of later scientific progress and technological advancement (and then because of that also complicit in later struggles of science versus pseudo-science and conspiratorial thinking).

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

#209

Would it be stronger for the same amount of bricks if it didn't have the inflection point where there is no curvature, and instead had intersecting arcs like: ︾︾︾︾ ?

I think you're asking if a series of arcs is stronger than a wavy line. It's a great question and I think the answer to that would require a full model of the two walls to calculate all the stresses, etc. But I think it would also depend on the question of "stronger against what?" A pushing force but at what point and at what angle. Even height might make a difference.

My gut instinct is that the point where a wavy wall changes from curving one way to another is a slight weak point and perhaps an angle there would actually be stronger. Might be totally wrong.

Re: Wavy walls use fewer bricks than a straight wall (2020)

#210

The same reason is why my roof has corrugated metal sheeting, rather than plate. This was a question I had students prove out. With the bending moment of inertia being related to the cube of the thickness for a flat plate, the maths trickles out very quickly.

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