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Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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> E-bikes just aren’t that dangerous, especially compared to a full power motor vehicle. Sure, but we don’t let children drive full power motor vehicles (except older teenagers after passing a test, and obtaining liability insurance).

And yet, full power motor vehicles kill thousands of children, while e-bikes kill single digit numbers of children. If your argument is “somebody think of the children” then you have to consider that any child in the US is far, far, far more likely to be maimed or killed by a car while on their bike, then by their bike while on the bike.

Of course motor vehicles kill more children — there are orders of magnitude more of them. No one is crying "think of the children". We are just discussing whether it is wise for children to use these vehicles, which types are more/less safe for children, etc. Injury comparisons with motor vehicles they cannot legally drive, and which are in much, much greater supply, are simply not relevant. Show me a stat that looks at deaths per million miles driven, and I'm all ears.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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Most people seem to complain about the weather or humidity. I find that riding on a busy street, the noxious automobile emissions are the biggest source of displeasure when I'm physically exerting myself (breathing faster just makes me inhale more of the fumes). This is what the e-bike has freed me most of. That and being able to accelerate faster than my muscles can has enabled me to keep up with motor traffic.

That said, most of these points would be moot if the US had dedicated bike lanes separate from automobile traffic.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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post #108

E bikes really are the best form of travel. The only issue is how do you get rid of that ridiculous looking grin on your face. You just had a huge rush, got a bit of exercise, paid nothing for parking, eight pennies for 'gas', and beat all your co-workers who were stuck in traffic. The grin is real and not a good look professionally at the office when commuting. Thanks ebikes.ca, endless sphere forums and Sheldon Bro…

> how do you get rid of that ridiculous looking grin on your face Getting buzzed by an SUV or honked at a stoplight works for me

I feel like a paintball gun on a shoulder strap might help to discourage that behavior from motorists

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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It amazes me how little attention e-bikes are given in terms of reducing traffic, pollution, CO2 etc. The BBC is especially bad at this - they promote lots of articles singing the praises of electric vehicles (i.e. cars) and almost never mention e-bikes as being far better for a lot of use cases. It also grinds my gears that there's tax breaks for getting e-cars and nothing for getting e-bikes. It's almost as if poli…

Unless bike theft is solved, an e-bike will remain a toy for the weekends for most people. An expensive e-bike is a prime target to thieves. They require a secure indoor storage space at both ends of the any journey, and many potential users lack that, either at their workplace or their home (e.g living in an apartment only accessible via stairs)

Or you use a folding bike, where you just bring it with you. I put mine under my office desk.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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post #112

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Technology improved, but cars one main advantage. To steal a 4000lbs car one needs either a tow truck, or to enable the engine, or a lot of guys to push. To steal a 15 lbs bicycle, one need only pick it up and walk away.

E bikes are a lot heavier than 15 lbs

Still plenty carrayable by one person.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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post #157

In the UK, as in Europe and Australia I believe, Ebikes ("pedelecs") are legally limited to assistance only up to 15mph=25kph (it's possible to exceed this downhill, of course). As someone used to riding a regular pedal bike, I would say this is close to but not quite fast enough to feel comfortable among urban traffic. Yet raising the limit to say 20mph could feel arguably unsafely fast on a shared use path through…

There are also the 45 km/h s-pedelecs in EU, maybe still in the UK too.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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What are people's experiences with folding e-bikes? I'm most interested in the Gocycle, but it costs as much as a used car. This Siggi https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/siggi-unfold-everyday-lif... looks great and only weighs 13 kg but has all the risks of a crowdfunding project (massive delays and initial quality issues). It's the first I've seen with regenerative braking, and you can pedal backwards to charge it.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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Unless bike theft is solved, an e-bike will remain a toy for the weekends for most people. An expensive e-bike is a prime target to thieves. They require a secure indoor storage space at both ends of the any journey, and many potential users lack that, either at their workplace or their home (e.g living in an apartment only accessible via stairs)

What prevents anyone from using e.g. embedded Apple tags to monitor their bike whereabouts?

Cops often don't do anything even if you bring them tracking information. Example: https://abc7.com/ebike-theft-airtag-aliso-viejo/13091749/

Not everyone is willing to take matters into their own hands, like this person's dad did.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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post #80

Unless there is already such a thing, I want to start an open-source electric bike (well, scooter/motorcycle actually, I see the pedals as more of a hindrance to adpoption) project this Winter.

Pretty sure it needs pedals to be legally classified as a bike, otherwise it is an electric scooter and a whole separate list of laws apply, but this could vary by state and country.

That's unfortunate that that is generally the case.

Many people go full-assist — twist the throttle and go. If they had to pedal significantly they would be disinclined to even ride an ebike.

When the power is out, actually pedaling an ebike is one of the worst riding experiences ever.

Pedals generally mean your seating position is higher, feet not touching the gourd when seated — this too will disincline a larger number of people from ebiking.

We should not be putting up hurdles for ebike adoption.

Re: Electric bike, stupid love of my life

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post #98

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I haven't tried but I'm curious about them: would a foldable (e)bike do it for you? You just don't leave it outside at all! I've been eyeing the Bromptons but without a commute it's harder for me to justify the cost.

I had a foldable e-bike for two months (was great) in SF before it was stolen. Someone saw me ride up to my house and enter the basement entrance where I kept it locked to a pole in a utility closet. Later on, they grabbed a food delivery bag, told another tenant they were making a delivery, got buzzed into the building, and stole the bike. They didn't get either battery, but I haven't bought a bike since.

Very sorry to hear this, but I appreciate the tale as a warning.
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