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Customers don't want chat bots

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Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#201
Chat bots are the same as the support forms that suggest articles.

Ergo useless.

If I've arrived at your support form it already means I've done everything your articles say they do.

Yes the modem is plugged in.

Yes I've rebooted it.

Yes the cable is good.

Yes the house's electricity is on.

No you didn't report an outage.

files claim.

2 days later they replace a piece of cable 2 neighbors down and things work again.

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Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#202

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You have my condolences. My brother and I ended up hiring a lawyer to handle our dad's estate, and I'd recommend it to anyone. She did things like send the hospital a letter that said in essence "give me a single bill with a total for all services provided at your hospital. If it's not on this bill I'm not going to pay it." (Although legal fees for estates are capped here in Ohio, not sure if that's true where you ar…

> She did things like send the hospital a letter that said in essence "give me a single bill with a total for all services provided at your hospital. If it's not on this bill I'm not going to pay it." That is a great thing to say, but does it actually hold any weight? Or is it like the construction trucks that have signs saying they are not responsible for damage from items blown off them?

I've done similar to this and it has worked. You dump the onus onto them. If they don't explicitly reject it then they've tacitly accepted it, and you've got it in writing too.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#203

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You can do this, even as a living person. I once got a $10k bill reduced to $700. (It took a lot of back-and-forth, but it was worth it.)

We're about to find out too. Dad passed 8 months ago; we got a $1500 hospital bill last week (just after the probate window closed) w/o explanation or description of services rendered.

That sounds to me like the hospital screwed up and is asking for charity. If the probate window is closed before they sent the bill (check the postmark date), then I don't think you owe them anything.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#204
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People don't want a useless chat bots, more often than not they seem deliberately programmed to be obstructive. If you told it you wanted a refund for order xyz, and it immediately gave you a refund, I'm sure people would like it.

You can provide that with a simple HTML form though.

NC DMV replaced all of their HTML forms with chatbots and it drives me nuts because I used to be able to pay my taxes and fees in under a minute, but now I have a stupid chat bot interaction that takes closer to 5, because you can no longer just complete the form and submit it but have to answer queries from the bot one at a time with some BS fake typing delay.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#205
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Same. Few years ago, I was stuck at Dulles due to a snow storm and had to resort to online customer chat support via the United app. I only used it because United was pushing people really hard to use the app for support. I was connected with a support rep who obviously did not live in the states because he tried to give me an impossible itinerary. Anyone living in DMV area knows taking an AA flight from DCA that's a…

> Anyone living in DMV area knows taking an AA flight from DCA that's about to take off in 40 minutes when you're currently located in terminal C/D in IAD is impossible. I don’t think you need to live in the DMV area or even need to be a human to figure this out…

You'd be surprised!

My thought process is that people who get contracted/hired to do cheap labor won't appreciate how big the US is (IAD to DCA is 40 minutes alone without inclement weather + bad traffic) and how TSA affects one's transit time.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

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I figured out most of the airport acronyms... except DMV... Delaware-Maryland-Virginia? (Search focuses on motor vehicles, even with "-motor")

I always thought it stood for "DC Maryland Virginia".. basically the greater Washington DC metro area.

Yep. Poor Delaware.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

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> Anyone living in DMV area knows taking an AA flight from DCA that's about to take off in 40 minutes when you're currently located in terminal C/D in IAD is impossible. I don’t think you need to live in the DMV area or even need to be a human to figure this out…

You'd be surprised! My thought process is that people who get contracted/hired to do cheap labor won't appreciate how big the US is (IAD to DCA is 40 minutes alone without inclement weather + bad traffic) and how TSA affects one's transit time.

But there are easy resources available to them to determine that. Google Maps alone would indicate that it’s pretty much impossible. I am actually surprised that their system even would suggest something like that.

For fun, I asked ChatGPT (gpt-4)…

Prompt: Can I get from Terminal C in IAD to DCA in 40 minutes?

Response: Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD) and Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA) are two separate airports located in the Northern Virginia area, near Washington, D.C.

The travel time between these two airports is approximately 45 minutes to 1 hour by car under normal conditions. However, this can vary depending on the time of day, traffic, and other factors. Furthermore, this timing does not include time for potential issues such as returning a rental car, waiting for a taxi or rideshare, airport security, and other possible delays.

Therefore, a 40-minute window to travel between these two airports and catch a flight is not realistic and highly risky. It's recommended to allow a much greater time buffer when scheduling flights with a transfer between these airports.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#208

A big part of the problem isn’t actually chat bots even though it may well seem to be. It’s that you can’t pop some system atop a teetering ziggurat of shitty data from mutually incompatible systems and think the fundamental problems are going to just disappear. Example: I am currently executor of my dad’s estate and trying to get various policies and pensions and whatnot transferred into my mother’s name. One compan…

I wish I could pass on some wisdom or tips for how to deal with estate crap better, but I don't know that there is. It's just a fucking slog. The best cases are where you say the magic word, it gets you to a dedicated department staffed by real humans who actually know what they're talking about, sends you the right paperwork, and that paperwork finishes out what you need from them. The bad cases are basically an exercise in reverse engineering their org chart, to figure out what department is actually responsible for a given corner case, and how their policies and the legal regulations actually fit together. I remember being on the phone with Vanguard to sort something out, I think I got pinballed between 4-5 different ostensibly-human reps in changing departments. Each one profusely apologizing that they had to transfer me again, and I'm just laughing it off because it's the only way to survive.

Get a durable power of attorney for your mother sooner rather than later. It won't solve everything, but can make some inquiries easier to just do on your own rather than needing a group project. Also health care proxy and a new will if those are necessary. IME old people can be very open to such changes soon after a death, but then become much more hesitant and procrastinatey months later. I think it's the difference between ascribing the reason to their partner's death, or to their own looming death. Strike while the iron is hot.

Re: Customers don't want chat bots

#210
FTA: A chat bot can handle expected, middle-of-the-road queries (as in, for a bank, “what’s my balance” and so on) – but customers can get those answers already from the app or website.

This is where the author misses the point. Chat bots will be te main interface in the future. Especially for these mundane middle of the road queries. Integrated into voice controlled ai buddies.

The author is spot on for the more complicated requests. Even though these will be triaged by a the ai buddy.

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