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Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#201
post #126

Speaking from very painful, personal experience, few things are more agitating than being forced to execute on something you fully know is a horrible idea, especially when you tried and failed to communicate this fact to the individual pushing you to go against your best judgement. Even more so when that person later loudly proclaims that they never made such a request, even when provided with written proof. I can of…

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#202

Also, taking Elon's word at face value for a second... is Twitter really worth scraping for AI training or whatever? Its a hive of misinformation, disinformation and toxicity. Its succinct I guess, but nothing is eloquent or descriptive because of the character limit. And its full of repetitive "filler" information. Who wants that in a foundational LLM dataset? Maybe its OK for finding labeled images... But that stil…

Don't write Elon off. If your goal is to create a toxic misinformation bot, Twitter is indispensable.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#203
post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We may be at peak consumer tolerance for anti-pattern, in-app purchase, subscription-model, ad-packed, data-siphoning, dopamine driven, gated experiences. As much as I want this to be true, I think this sentiment is really only popular on tech-savvy forums like HN. Most people don't use ad blockers, and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do (directly in response to something where they are compl…

> and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do. lol that's a new one, why?

Not the op but I have that experience frequently. These are perceived as geeky needy techie things that are not for normal people (sprinkle quotations as needed). It's the same as people getting upset at suggestion to add lock of some sort to their phone (face, fingerprint, whatever) or backup their phone.

After some pondering I think it's peoples' insecurity misfiring. They use these complicated layered and potentially risky and dangerous pieces of technology, aware they don't fully understand them, that they work as magic that could stop any moment. Trying to understand and secure them is a massive rabbit hole. So I think there's kind of a rejection to go down that hole or acknowledge the problem or, most of all, face the vulnerability and exposure.

My 100 Croatian lipa fwiw :-)

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#204
post #181

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

It's MastOdon, not MastAdon.

No difference to me.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#205
post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We may be at peak consumer tolerance for anti-pattern, in-app purchase, subscription-model, ad-packed, data-siphoning, dopamine driven, gated experiences. As much as I want this to be true, I think this sentiment is really only popular on tech-savvy forums like HN. Most people don't use ad blockers, and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do (directly in response to something where they are compl…

> and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do. lol that's a new one, why?

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#207

I think we're about at the point where the people who predicted chaos at twitter after Elon basically fired most of the experienced engineers have been proven correct. The duct tape is all coming apart at the seams now. It isn't quite as decisive as a submarine imploding, and ceasing to exist, but it has turned into a brightly burning tirefire.

I dunno. We are several months out after the major layoffs. Maybe some very recent bad decisions were made internally that pared back too far, but I think Musk has long since been proven correct that the core platform could function on a fraction of the workforce it had at the time of takeover.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#208
post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We may be at peak consumer tolerance for anti-pattern, in-app purchase, subscription-model, ad-packed, data-siphoning, dopamine driven, gated experiences. As much as I want this to be true, I think this sentiment is really only popular on tech-savvy forums like HN. Most people don't use ad blockers, and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do (directly in response to something where they are compl…

> and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do. lol that's a new one, why?

Ultimately it boils down to "it should just work" but to be more specific one person said "I shouldn't have to do anything different!" and directed their anger towards me instead of the ads they were previously complaining about.

People that aren't tech-savvy don't want to think about tech any more than they already do. Having to understand something new about tech is just another problem to them. I'm not saying that as an insult - just an observation.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#209
post #140

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When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person. People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.

Come on, in a lot coastal discourse it is practically taboo to mention vanilla opinions that are held by 70+% of the population. Mastodon instances are largely moderated by people from the other 30%. You are free to judge if you want. But don't pretend this is a violation of publicly accepted morals in the 1st world.

> vanilla opinions that are held by 70+% of the population.

Ooh, ooh, ooh? Like what kind of "vanilla opinion?"

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#210

It's not a self ddos if twitter isn't going down. You can see in the video twitter is properly handling the load and is returning HTTP 429 when the client is sending too many requests. Hitting the rate limiter or requesting a post is light weight. It's not like it's spamming login requests which require a lot of resources due to key stretching.

2 Nines is sufficient at scale?

For a consumer facing surface. Yes.
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