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How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by red-iron-pine »

pessimizer wrote: post #172
throwaway290 wrote: post #124

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I didn't downvote you but if a government - offers no way of replacing itself democratically - extends own term indefinitely - blocks free exchange of information - censors specific speech that shows its failures or desire of people to replace it - suppresses internal protests with murders and disappearings of people (1989 Tiananmen, 2019+ Hong Kong, blank paper movement, ...) etc then it's super clear its primary go…

There's probably more disagreement within the Chinese government than between the two dominant parties of each of the western powers.

Perhaps, but you wouldn't know it, and the results sure aren't felt domestically or internationally.

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Post by mistermann »

matchapples wrote: post #170
pessimizer wrote: post #168

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Exactly. This is the period when Muslim ethnic groups like the Uigurs were being rounded up on any pretense to be reeducated into not wanting to be separatists anymore (often with no indication that they had anything to do with separatism other than their ethnicity.) Seeing the VPN pop up was more than enough of an excuse. Calling it a "genocide" is 99% propaganda, but it was obviously a sinofication meant to get rid…

Why do you say it's 99% propaganda? "sinofication" sounds a lot like "eliminating the existing culture" which sounds a lot like genocide. Genocide is more than just murdering everyone like in some of the most well known cases like the Holocaust -- it includes elimination of an ethnic group by any means possible, including "nativification"

> Why do you say it's 99% propaganda?

I suspect because of propaganda.

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by mensetmanusman »

pessimizer wrote: post #171
nonethewiser wrote: post #119

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> which probably wouldn't mind bombing the shit out of their own city if it was necessary to stay in power See the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

You have to have a sense of proportion on this, and an example that isn't 30 years old.

They fear bomb their own cities though (using drones!):

Shanghai Residents Told to 'Control Your Thirst for Freedom' Amid Lockdown

https://www.newsweek.com/shanghai-residents-told-control-you...

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by red-iron-pine »

FredPret wrote: post #200
pessimizer wrote: post #177

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> All this useless work done suppressing the human spirit. It also becomes an inspiration to others.

Would-be dictators, or firewall makers?

google

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Post by red-iron-pine »

reaperman wrote: post #63
hughesjj wrote: post #43

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Nope. Starlink shuts down over china on the satellite side. Tesla has a huge presence there and they also threatened to shoot the satellites down (which they've done before) if starlink provided internet access there

To clarify for readers: China has never shot down someone else's satellite. They've only destroyed one satellite ever and it was their own.

and creating a ton of space debris in the process. oups

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Post by CamperBob2 »

noduerme wrote: post #167
wahnfrieden wrote: post #141

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Police in America don't control residents. Most of the time they can't even control themselves.

Police in America don't control residents.

How was your nap, Mr. Van Winkle? 2020 wasn't a great year in the US. You were better off spending it asleep, trust me.

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Post by qingcharles »

noduerme wrote: post #157
hinkley wrote: post #144

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In fact, the US Department of State recommends that all US citizens have a photocopy of their passport with them, when traveling abroad. Supposedly you get in shorter lines at the consulate if you have at least a photocopy of your passport available. You should be able to petition the consulate of your home country to issue you a new passport. I think it may be illegal, but I've heard from people who travel to places…

Anyone that says you should keep your passport on you when you're in a foreign country has never traveled. I never keep my passport on my person when I'm walking around outside the US. I lock it away as securely as I can wherever I'm staying, and carry a color copy of it in my pocket. Part of this is simply because American passports are extremely valuable. Another part is that anyone who wants to fuck with you in so…

But please don't keep it in a room safe at a hotel. If I had a dollar for the people I know who put valuables in the room safe and lost them...

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Post by dizhn »

occamrazor wrote: post #25
dizhn wrote: post #15

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We have a satellite office in Dubai. I know their static IP. When they connect to our imap/smtp server they are coming in from another IP. I never looked into it deeply but assumed their connection is being diverted for inspection. (If true, they would probably not be below performing industrial espionage with the data they are accessing)

Is the IMAP/SMTP connection not encrypted?

Yes they are encrypted.

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by qingcharles »

reaperducer wrote: post #184
noduerme wrote: post #157

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Anyone that says you should keep your passport on you when you're in a foreign country has never traveled. I never keep my passport on my person when I'm walking around outside the US. I lock it away as securely as I can wherever I'm staying, and carry a color copy of it in my pocket. Part of this is simply because American passports are extremely valuable. Another part is that anyone who wants to fuck with you in so…

Another part is that anyone who wants to fuck with you in some semi-official capacity now has to choose whether to go back to your hotel or arrest you on the spot, which puts them in a better mind to give up or take a bribe. Happened to me at an airport in Thailand. Some airside police officer demanded to inspect my passport, then wouldn't give it back to me until I walked him to an ATM so I could pay him a "tax" in…

Had this in Hungary about 2004. Had no money at all at the time. They handed me a notice in 15 languages which said I was now permanently excluded from ever entering Hungary again ^_^
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