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Re: Top secret U.S. Navy system heard titan implosion days ago

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Post by EdwardDiego » Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 1:54 AM UTC

phpisthebest wrote: post #197

EdwardDiego wrote: post #169

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Because no-one ever leaks info in large bureaucracies?

Well there was reports that this information was leaked and the news media had this information days before it was officially reported but the news media chose not to report on that leaked information which is also curious

Ever heard the phrase "when you hear hooves, think horses, not zebra"?

The media probably chose not to report it for the same reason the Coastguard didn't say "They're dead, let's go home" until they found confirmation.

Re: Top secret U.S. Navy system heard titan implosion days ago

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Post by flaghacker » Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 6:54 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #63

dekhn wrote: post #27

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One might say that subs are the only truly strategic component of nuclear arms.

> subs are the only truly strategic component of nuclear arms I used to think this. But land-based missiles are essential for MAD, as a nuclear sponge and by being cheap. They also protect against a technological horizon over which subs are unmasked. (There is a great scene in The Expanse which contemplates such a horizon.) What I can’t get my head around are nuclear bombers, which largely seem to be for posturing [1…

What scene in the expanse is that?

Re: Top secret U.S. Navy system heard titan implosion days ago

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Post by mozman » Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 10:26 AM UTC

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #146

jhanschoo wrote: post #144

> The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said. I think the journalist may have assumed the wrong sequence of even…

The Navy is listening at all time but sounds travel weirdly in sea water due to temperature and salinity gradients and submarines tend to travel through zones where their own sound isn't carried very well. They might have been ordered to move to a point where they would have been more likely to hear the Titan.

Ocean acidity also impacts acoustic transmission, one of the leading causes of noise pollution for fish.

Re: Top secret U.S. Navy system heard titan implosion days ago

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Post by satisfice » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 9:53 PM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #79

satisfice wrote: post #78

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They certainly told the family about the implosion noise, because I heard one of the expert commentators remark on how he knew about it prior to the news about the knocking noises. If he knew, the family knew. I think they were just holding out hope that it wasn’t an implosion noise.

It's fine to hold out hope, but there's no point to concealing evidence. Why not report what's actually happening to the best of your knowledge?

I agree.