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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by kybernetikos »

smcl wrote: post #186
notimetorelax wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Followed some of the links shared here, I fully agree now that the CEO should go. Earlier, he compromised the integrity of people’s speech by editing their posts: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/reddit-edit-post

I can see why they might want someone with the ability to edit posts (removing extreme TOS stuff - racism, hate speech etc). But that's probably not for the CEO and certainly shouldn't be used simply to "troll the trolls" Also it's baffling to me that the CEO of reddit is a regular user and somehow isn't up in arms about how irritating it is to use the site.

I'm not sure that's right. If your website is saying I said something I didn't say then that's an issue. Sure, have the ability to remove or annotate posts that break the rules in some way but to leave a post up saying something other than what the poster wrote seems bad (and possibly even libellous) to me.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by mrtksn »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #90
mrtksn wrote: post #74

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As much as I would like to believe that boycotts can work, I'm just too cynical after seeing all those boycotts doing nothing. My old.reddit.com homepage hasn't change much. Missing is r/ProgrammerHumor but r/Programming is there, alongside with r/darksky, r/wallstreetbets etc. All the porn seems to be there too, which might actually move some numbers if gone dark. The only sub which I care and it's gone is r/StableD…

Don't forget the international dateline :) The 12th of June is a poorly specified target. But I know that /r/programming has two Reddit administrators as part of the mods, so I'm not surprised they're not going dark.

> But I know that /r/programming has two Reddit administrators as part of the mods, so I'm not surprised they're not going dark.

Is there anything stopping Reddit from making the CEO a mod in every major sub though?

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by ddng »

CodeCompost wrote: post #160

Just wondering. If you were Reddit CEO and you were being pressured to turn it into a profitable company, how would you do it?

slowly add costs to the apis. he gave people such a short notice and the price was too much.

or better yet - make the reddit app so good....people wouldn't want to use another one.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by darreninthenet »

dacryn wrote: post #71
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Reddit won't die for the same reason Facebook won't... there's no real viable alternative for the majority of the users.

It might become a bit shitter, it might lose a few users who are a bit more tech savvy or from the "old days of the internet" who'll find themselves fedi or forum based alternatives but the majority will keep getting what they want out of it without a reason to move - most users probably use the official app which is rubbish compared to Apollo etc but is sufficient for them.

I'd love to see this protest actually work but the cynic in me says it won't, or if it does it'll be a slow death as the 1% leave and the content dries up which then pushes away the majority, and it'll be too slow to save it... only then might we see a viable alternative pop up, but I'm sure it won't be any of the Fedi solutions as they just fragment the communities too much even with the instances opening to each other, but we're already seeing Lemmy instances "defederate" from each other

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by zouhair »

gdubya wrote: post #124
zouhair wrote: post #72

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Lemmy and its instances could be it.

Like Mastodon to Twitter? I like the idea, but it's not really taking off, is it?

As long as Reddit's powerusers are still hoping for a retraction it won't, but if Reddit keep at it, I can see the move happening, especially for the big (over 500K) subreddits.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by shafyy »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #172
peruvian wrote: post #168

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pg would tell him to push through this, get the IPO, cash out, and then leave Reddit to become an angel investor. Plus, pg would make money off the IPO. It’s a YC company after all.

pg has enough money. It’s not his primary motive.

Oh, my sweet summer child. Rich people never have enough money and power.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by onion2k »

Ekaros wrote: post #119
dacryn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Maybe instead of this banning 3rd part Apps. They could charge all users 9.99 or 19.99 a month. Thus generate revenue for the IPO.

The problem with this approach (not just for Reddit, but for all internet content sites) is that $9.99 is a significant investment when there are other sites providing content for free. The choice the user has to make isn't "Is Reddit worth $9.99?" but more like "Is Reddit better value at $9.99 than some other website at $0.00?", and Reddit is probably never going to win in that process for the majority of people.

It's the same reason why so few people sign up to pay for YouTube or Twitter. Video content is available elsewhere. Whatever the hell Twitter content is can be found just by talking to people.

On the other side so many do pay for Spotify and Netflix because that content is locked down pretty well. You can pirate some things, but it's a pain. Paying is easier.

Reddit seems to think it has a product that has value. Like so many web content hosts before it, it's probably wrong. It probably can't work as a business unless it's showing people adverts. And the problem with that model is that people hate adverts.

Honestly, until users realise that they can't have a content host unless they pay, no sites like Reddit will survive long term.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by nrawe »

I think the big problem is that they are trying to turn something which is more akin to a utility into a product that can be IPO’d.

What they used to be (simple, free, centralised forum software) doesn’t interest the market; so they’re having to try and package it as a social network.

Rightly or wrongly, the market has an understanding of how to value that and things like data collection and deployment, DAUs, mobile vs non-mobile usage (again, more about data collection), and the oh so relevant deployment of AI/ML.

It’s why, we all know, there is hate speech and such on the platform which could be handled more actively but isn’t: they need the DAUs.

It’s the big issue with “build it and they will come” type endeavours like this: you have to know you’ll do when they get there.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by constantcrying »

smcl wrote: post #186
notimetorelax wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Followed some of the links shared here, I fully agree now that the CEO should go. Earlier, he compromised the integrity of people’s speech by editing their posts: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/reddit-edit-post

I can see why they might want someone with the ability to edit posts (removing extreme TOS stuff - racism, hate speech etc). But that's probably not for the CEO and certainly shouldn't be used simply to "troll the trolls" Also it's baffling to me that the CEO of reddit is a regular user and somehow isn't up in arms about how irritating it is to use the site.

> (removing extreme TOS stuff - racism, hate speech etc)

Why would you edit these? Deletion seems far superior, do you want people to go around editing out the racism of peoples posts? Seems absurd.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by blitzar »

fransje26 wrote: post #195
blitzar wrote: post #50

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If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand that its over. This week is critical to save your personal narrative. No matter what really happened; always tell people you are the person who invented the like button at facebook, not the one who decided to band porn on tumblr.

> ban porn on tumbler > ban porn on imgur > ban porn on onlyfans Oh wait, they were actually smart enough to back-track on the last one..

> ban porn on onlyfans

Only those in posession of the sigma hussle grindset can see the true genius behind that plan.

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