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Post by hawski »

tester457 wrote: post #192
hawski wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why inability to sort by controversial is seen as a positive?

Prevents a community of people awarded for throwing rotten vegetables at people like Twitter and Reddit. > I also notice that there is no such thing as sort by controversy > This is one of the things I like about Tildes so far. An option like that is specifically designed for hate. I want to spend my time on these sites talking with other nerds about homelab stuff and niche 30 year old RPGs no one cares about. Not fe…

Some threads on Reddit represent an echo chamber and I like then to sort by controversial to check if there are also people with a bit more divergent opinion. I was not aware of this being a wider problem for people.

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Post by foderking »

londons_explore wrote: post #119
lolinder wrote: post #102

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Where are you seeing these stats?

Here, for example: https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1666446359619153920

how does this backup what you said in anyway? all I'm seeing is follower growths for popular accounts

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Post by scinerio »

gtsteve wrote: post #18
spiderfarmer wrote: post #2

All this backlash is going to kill Reddit. It will take a thousand little cuts for sure, but it started the moment they announced their ludicrous pricing.

I don't think it will. It'll IPO just fine, make their shareholders wealthy and become another millquetoast advertiser friendly walled garden for your average internet user while the jilted original users go and find another platform, which will in turn IPO just fine, make their shareholders wealthy and the cycle repeats forever. The average internet user by the way, is statistically not you reading this, doesn't rea…

So where are the "OG" users going?

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Post by blint_carton »

horsawlarway wrote: post #104
tiffanyh wrote: post #45

Dumb question: why does Apollo need their own backend API when isn’t Apollo just a different view/UX for Reddits own API? https://github.com/christianselig/apollo-backend

So I do primarily App/Extension development, and I've been doing it for about 15 years now. The short answer: You must have an interface you control, because app store review times mean there is no "hot fix". When something upstream of the client breaks - you are DAYS (assume 24 to 48 hours for review, after you fix the bug) from being able to get a new client in front of users, and several weeks out from having all…

Saved many long outages by being able to push quick dirty fixes to upstream APIs from our middle/server layer that depended on 3rd party APIs.

Also a place to pull in any access keys needed for other services if they connect to so it doesn't sit in the client code.

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Post by wkat4242 »

veidr wrote: post #165
wkat4242 wrote: post #9

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I wonder.. The very same thing hardly seems to have hurt Twitter.

Umm,? Their ad revenue is down north of 50% since the 'garch took over. How are you defining 'hurt'? UPDATE: Oh I see, they did the kill-the-API-to-kill-third-party-clients thing before too, long before the current brouhaha. OK, never mind.

No the kill the API thing came after Elon. It was one of the things he did, but indeed this specific thing does not seem to have hurt user engagement in particular. In fact it was probably one of the things that was good for their ad revenue and probably why they did it.

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Post by whynaut »

tester457 wrote: post #192
hawski wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why inability to sort by controversial is seen as a positive?

Prevents a community of people awarded for throwing rotten vegetables at people like Twitter and Reddit. > I also notice that there is no such thing as sort by controversy > This is one of the things I like about Tildes so far. An option like that is specifically designed for hate. I want to spend my time on these sites talking with other nerds about homelab stuff and niche 30 year old RPGs no one cares about. Not fe…

> An option like that is specifically designed for hate

This is very short-sighted, I feel. The controversial comments often have the most interesting discussions, and helps to avoid the issue of the top-voted comment being a popular, but incorrect, view/discussion where all the activity happens.

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Post by CincinnatiMan »

hospitalJail wrote: post #71
fron wrote: post #17

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It's more than likely that they'll inject their own softball questions and focus on those instead of addressing everyone's concerns in any meaningful way.

When they removed the upvote/downvote count, it was clear reddit was fine with manipulation. Anything I read on the website has been met with extreme skepticism since it very well could be an astroturfer. It's money. Reddit wants astroturfers, it grows their platform and helps sell ads.

May not even need to be an astroturfer, it could be u/spez directly. Don’t forget that he went rogue and modified a user’s comment in the Reddit database!

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Post by TX81Z »

andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

My friend, that’s ALL of our code!

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Post by mypastself »

xwdv wrote: post #189
mypastself wrote: post #87

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What are you basing this on? Do we have any data regarding the percentages of mobile/old/app users?

It’s not just about users, it’s about principles.

I have no doubt some users will leave, but I’m not sure what principles have to do with whether or not it would be the end of Reddit. Unless you mean in some subjective, personal sense.

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Post by TX81Z »

joezydeco wrote: post #187
Gunnerhead wrote: post #178

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A naïve question, but why is a backend needed and why couldn’t the app call the APIs directly? Just curious to learn!

Sibling comment above says it was mostly for notification, but flowing calls through their server also meant they didn't need to resubmit to Apple most of the time when something broke on Reddit's side.

Yeah. I’d imagine the less client side code the better when you have somebody getting paid $1/hour to randomly reject apps as the final step in hour launch process.
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