Sounds like Apollo has a nice frontend with a proven API behind it.
Reimplementing the API on a different backend couldn’t be _that_ hard, at least for a POC. Supabase anyone?
Apollo will close down on June 30th
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#202I'm not a user of Apollo, and honestly have been perfectly fine using old.reddit.com on both mobile and desktop. That said, while I realize it's just his side of the story, the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational (and he apparently has the receipts to back it up), while Reddit comes across as embodying typical corporate greed. On a related note, I think everyone should understand that,…
For most corporations -- particularly the large ones -- I agree with you; however, there is also the B corporation route. Now, I have no idea if Reddit ever considered this path back in their earlier fund-seeking days, but it would have been an intriguing path had they done so.
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#203> Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million." Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us." I can't believe that CEO of Reddit was telling internal people that Apollo tried to blackmail Reddit for a $10 million payout when that didn't happen.
Isn’t this the same guy who went and edited comments of users who were critical of him on Reddit? If someone shows you who they are believe them…
Its the same guy who has let the entire platform be exploited for years at the expense of the people just wanting to connect about subjects online.
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#204I'm not a user of Apollo, and honestly have been perfectly fine using old.reddit.com on both mobile and desktop. That said, while I realize it's just his side of the story, the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational (and he apparently has the receipts to back it up), while Reddit comes across as embodying typical corporate greed. On a related note, I think everyone should understand that,…
you must be aware that old.reddit.com is on the chopping block in the next few months/years, right?
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#205Can someone please record a video of using this app? I'd love to have a record of what we are losing.
I would if it wasnt only available on iPhone
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I would if it wasnt only available on iPhone
That makes sense to me. I was also wondering how come I had never heard of this app.
It also changes the calculus significantly: how many users does Apollo have, and how many users does Reddit have?
Reddit just might not even notice the content produced by Apollo users.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
And exactly what are they losing from business perspective? Few users that generate only costs?
Most of the content on reddit is created by power users who are more likely to use 3rd party tools. Most people who use the official app only consume content.
Do you have a source for that? I am sure Reddit knows the truth and took that into account in their negotiations.
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#207I still don't understand why the user flow can't be: 1. Download Apollo 2. Go to Reddit.com 3. Open your user settings 4. Generate a client_id and client_secret 5. Paste that into these two places in Apollo 6. There you go Sure it's not strictly to OAuth2, but it's going to work just fine, right?
Obtaining Reddit API keys is an application process, it is not automated
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#208can Apollo just switch to supporting Lemmy.ml? That would be nice their UI kinda sucks at the moment.
In the thread he said he rather let it die because he is already tired.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be honest it sounded like that to me too. It's very hard to differentiate between some honest clumsy phrasing and fishing for a payout, and the "clarification" doesn't help with that since it could also be an excuse to save face.
Maybe with text snippets, but I don't see how somebody can listen to the conversation and come away with the idea that the dev was blackmailing anyone. https://christianselig.com/apollo-end/reddit-third-call-may-...
I mean, even in the text snippets you can see that they seem to understand after a bit as to what Christian was talking about.
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#210I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…
Reddit should try honestly. "We are losing lots of money, we need to start making money, reddit gold isn't bringing in enough revenue to pay the bills. 3rd party apps don't show ads, which costs us a lot of money every month. Keeping the 3rd party APIs up and running also costs us money. Because Reddit needs to stop losing money, we are closing down 3rd party apps." I don't know what why it is so hard to say that...
Because you can't IPO for a zillion dollars and leave suckers holding the bag that way