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Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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> Even names often require an explanation You can still write the name in Hanyu Pinyin or Zhuyin perfectly fine. It is just that we like character names and that most characters are valid to be used in names so there is a lot more flexibility in what can be a name versus other cultures where there is a less flexible set of names. You can still do something similar in English where you say your name is "rainbow" but y…

Every forum post I've seen mentioning 白話字 and 台羅 mentions how hard it is to read and how few Hokkien speakers can even read it. The few proponents for it seem to be holding on for religious reasons (Presbyterians). >You can still do something similar in English where you say your name is "rainbow" but you spell it "rhaynbeau", This is an insulting borderline racist comparison and ties to the same old western trope of…

> Every forum post I've seen mentioning 白話字 and 台羅 mentions how hard it is to read and how few Hokkien speakers can even read it. The few proponents for it seem to be holding on for religious reasons (Presbyterians).

I am not sure what you mean by holding on for religious reasons? IThere are lot of reasons to write Taiwanese. Anyway, I don't know anything about these forums or have Presbyterian affiliation, but in my real life I use it quite often with friends and family. The reason few people can read it is because few people have learned it. For the majority of Taiwanese speakers it is only a spoken language. Written Taiwanese does not play a large role in public education in Taiwan.

> "rhaynbeau" Isn't a word and doesn't carry any meaning.

It's an imperfect example for non-Chinese speakers to illustrate that it can be hard to guess the character of another person's name but people still understand the sounds when hearing it. A lot of thought goes into choosing the characters for a Chinese name. Other cultures have names that are not related to meaning or are separated very far form the original meaning (the words are for names). Others allow variations on previous names or borrowing from other langauges so likewise those names might be challenging to know the spelling.

Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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There are language with even smaller sets of unique sounds that do not have tones like Hawaiian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_phonology There are many common homophones in English that are distinguished by context. Conversation tends to have a lot of context. As a Mandarin speaker, I've never really experienced this context problem. You can make up some artificial examples in English and Chinese but they do…

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Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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Every forum post I've seen mentioning 白話字 and 台羅 mentions how hard it is to read and how few Hokkien speakers can even read it. The few proponents for it seem to be holding on for religious reasons (Presbyterians). >You can still do something similar in English where you say your name is "rainbow" but you spell it "rhaynbeau", This is an insulting borderline racist comparison and ties to the same old western trope of…

> Every forum post I've seen mentioning 白話字 and 台羅 mentions how hard it is to read and how few Hokkien speakers can even read it. The few proponents for it seem to be holding on for religious reasons (Presbyterians). I am not sure what you mean by holding on for religious reasons? IThere are lot of reasons to write Taiwanese. Anyway, I don't know anything about these forums or have Presbyterian affiliation, but in my…

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Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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You've broken the site guidelines badly with this flamewar post, even stooping to personal attack. That's totally not ok. I'm not saying that your points on the underlying topics are wrong–for all I know you're 100% right—but you can't abuse HN like this, no matter how right you are or feel you are. As you've broken HN's rules many times in the past and ignored our repeated requests to stop, I've banned the account.…

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Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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From my understanding Mandarin has a lot of two-syllable words and in many of the words the second syllable doesn't add much, if any, additional meaning. Contrast that with Cantonese, which I believe still uses a single syllable for most words. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong) So it makes sense with less tones, because you have more syllables to disambiguate.

> which I believe still uses a single syllable for most words Not sure about "most" (depends on the sample distribution I suppose), but single syllable (i.e. character) words are used much more often relative to Mandarin. So in general you're probably right. Not sure whether that is a cause of more strict adherence to tones in songs though. It could be alternatively argued that the more complex syllable (due to more…

> It could be alternatively argued that the more complex syllable (due to more tones among other things) in Cantonese allowed it to retain single syllable words without having to add extra syllables to clarify any ambiguities.

Yes, pretty much.

Re: Cantonese Font with Pronunciation

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Funded by ... a dance studio! How wonderful. I walked past it the other day. Perhaps I'll pay them back for funding the creation of this font by taking a Tango class :) > The Cantonese Font is a piece of culture funded from our savings, and from revenue from our dance studio in Causeway Bay. If you are in Hong Kong, come join our fun, friendly, best Argentine Tango classes for all levels at www.eli.dance

Absolutely. Eli is a superb dancer and teacher. And if you are under-25, we even offer 50% off the group classes!
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