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I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by flangola7 »

pc86 wrote: post #172
flangola7 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect. You still just don't like it, and will not accept that it is an accurate statement about your comment. You are not entitled to have others entertain your bad narratives.

You know you had a perfect opportunity to try to convince me, right? Show me how "don't victim blame" is a productive statement that isn't meant to just immediately shut down the discussion. Show me how it leads to more questions and more discussion instead of silence. But instead, just restating your opinion as if it is objective, unquestionable fact.

Be better.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by lliamander »

dingledork69 wrote: post #198
lliamander wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between saying a victim, rather than the perpetrator, is to blame for the abuse (actual victim blaming) and saying the victim had the power to avoid it. If I go to a dangerous part of town and get mugged, it's perfectly reasonable to ask how I could have avoided being mugged. That does not mean I am to blame, or that the mugger should not be arrested.

Do you also think women should not be allowed to wear revealing clothes, lest they get raped? I hope not. People deserve to be themselves without getting raped, or bullied.

> Do you also think women should not be allowed to wear revealing clothes, lest they get raped?

No. Nor have I said anything like that.

> People deserve to be themselves without getting raped, or bullied.

Sure, but we don't live in a world where such things can be completely prevented. Therefore, every person has a responsibility to take reasonable precautions for their own safety and well-being.

Derailing conversations about what people can or should have done to avoid being victimized with accusations of "victim blaming" is actually quite infantilizing and perpetuates vulnerability.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by raxxorraxor »

frob wrote: post #174
TechBro8615 wrote: post #120

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I flagged it because it's exhausting sociopolitical drivel that has nothing to do with tech. If the company discriminated against this person, then prove it in court. Nobody here has sufficient information to make a determination one way or another. And none of us has an obligation to take the author at their word.

I don't care how many downvotes I get. An article about discrimination against marginalized groups in tech was flagged by "TechBro8615" because he is sick of "sociopolitical drivel." You can't make this shit up. This is Hacker News distilled into a single article. If someone pitched this to The Onion, they'd throw it back as being too on-the-nose. Thanks for reminding me that Tech Bros still do exist. I don't miss th…

The accusation of tech bro is basically the same as the accusation of being a nerd. Maybe even far more unsubstantiated.

I think this is a media term for people they for some reason or another just don't like very much. That is fine, but the accusation doesn't really carry any meaning.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by 3pt14applepie »

sizzle wrote: post #187
tossout367844 wrote: post #154

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I worked with her. She was a bully. She spent most of 2020-21 on various leaves with her fictional health and toxic workplace issues. She complained about her role so they did what she asked and now it’s listed as retaliation. She went on to report everyone who criticized her to the government for “intimidating a witness”. This woman at least seems sane.

Wow any idea what she’s up to now? I feel like doing this would be blacklisting yourself from future tech jobs industry

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Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by dingledork69 »

lliamander wrote: post #202
dingledork69 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you also think women should not be allowed to wear revealing clothes, lest they get raped? I hope not. People deserve to be themselves without getting raped, or bullied.

> Do you also think women should not be allowed to wear revealing clothes, lest they get raped? No. Nor have I said anything like that. > People deserve to be themselves without getting raped, or bullied. Sure, but we don't live in a world where such things can be completely prevented. Therefore, every person has a responsibility to take reasonable precautions for their own safety and well-being. Derailing conversati…

It's called an analogy. If you'd think for a few minutes you'd see the two situations are pretty similar. Of course one is far more extreme than the other, but both put the blame on the victim. Stop victim blaming.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by pc86 »

flangola7 wrote: post #201
pc86 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you had a perfect opportunity to try to convince me, right? Show me how "don't victim blame" is a productive statement that isn't meant to just immediately shut down the discussion. Show me how it leads to more questions and more discussion instead of silence. But instead, just restating your opinion as if it is objective, unquestionable fact.

Be better.

Slightly better tact after your other comment was rightfully flagged and killed, but still not appropriate for this forum.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by lliamander »

dingledork69 wrote: post #205
lliamander wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you also think women should not be allowed to wear revealing clothes, lest they get raped? No. Nor have I said anything like that. > People deserve to be themselves without getting raped, or bullied. Sure, but we don't live in a world where such things can be completely prevented. Therefore, every person has a responsibility to take reasonable precautions for their own safety and well-being. Derailing conversati…

It's called an analogy. If you'd think for a few minutes you'd see the two situations are pretty similar. Of course one is far more extreme than the other, but both put the blame on the victim. Stop victim blaming.

Acknowledging that a person has agency and responsibility for their own well being is simply not the same thing as blaming them when they are victimized by other people.

Until you understand that, there can be no meaningful discussion. If you continue making accusations and demands, expect to be flagged.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by flangola7 »

pc86 wrote: post #206
flangola7 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be better.

Slightly better tact after your other comment was rightfully flagged and killed, but still not appropriate for this forum.

The fact that you know how to click a flag button doesn't mean anything. Grow up and start acting "appropriately" as a rational adult.

As I already said, this isn't a discussion. The cop doesn't try to convince the drunk that they're drunk, they put them in handcuffs.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by dingledork69 »

lliamander wrote: post #207
dingledork69 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called an analogy. If you'd think for a few minutes you'd see the two situations are pretty similar. Of course one is far more extreme than the other, but both put the blame on the victim. Stop victim blaming.

Acknowledging that a person has agency and responsibility for their own well being is simply not the same thing as blaming them when they are victimized by other people. Until you understand that, there can be no meaningful discussion. If you continue making accusations and demands, expect to be flagged.

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