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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by trhr »

pyrophane wrote: post #100
trhr wrote: post #32

I went up into the Catskills with a big bag of mushrooms and a trunk full of rice and beans and didn't come down for a year. I learned what it means to be grounded. I'm fucking unshakable now. "Everyone's different" is the real lesson here. That being said, the way Silicon Valley uses this shit makes me want to rage. Treat it like it's sacred, and it'll treat you like you are.

Couple of questions for you about this, if you don't mind: 1. What kind of situation where you in in terms of lodging, social isolation, and access to nature? 2. How often were you taking mushrooms and how much did your dose vary? 3. We're you consuming any other drugs at the time? 4. What time of day did you typically take mushrooms and what did you do during? 5.Did you get sick of rice and beans and how much did yo…

I was by myself, in a tent. When I felt lonely, I moved the tent closer to hiking trails. When I wanted to be alone, I moved it further away. The easiest way to meet people on a mountain is just walking to the summit and sitting there.

When I was tired of rice and beans, I hiked down to a little restaurant that had really, really good fried fish.

One time I built a hot tub.

A park ranger was kind enough to jump start my car when I was ready to leave for good. I feel like that was the least they could do after writing me six parking tickets, all of which I paid.

The rest of the answers, I leave to you.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by csh0 »

dusted wrote: post #164

I've had strongly pronounced visual snow since I was a little kid.. Remember asking my parents "what is the thing you see when you close your eyes?" They were confused, "black?" yeah, but.. I know the color back, like, a piece of black paper on the table in a well-lit room, I understand that it's this near ideal smooth surface that reflect very little light of no particular color.. But the thing when you've been in b…

I have always had it as far as I know.

I have a vivid memory of asking my father if he could see atoms too when I was between 5 and 8.

I told him that when I stared at an object long enough, I saw little dots (snow). I must have just recently heard about atoms and mapped them to my experience.

Fortunately he understood what I was talking about and said told me it’s just my eyes or my mind presenting me with bad data. I’m sure it was a strange question for him, “can you see atoms too?”

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by Obertr »

PKop wrote: post #56
Obertr wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and on the other side you may get insanely creative and change your life for the better and build something valuable to the humanity. Tradeoff is clear for me.

This will never happen, and is an absurd cope for people that just want their fix and to be addicts without feeling bad.

how would you argue the fact that you don't develop addiction to this stuff?

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by throwaway173738 »

jerglingu wrote: post #22

Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…

As someone for whom Marijuana also induces panic and anxiety I second this. At least when I dropped acid I could somewhat control the dosage and was careful not to start with a full dose.

I actually like acid but I wouldn’t call it safe. The visual effects can be quite intense and if you’re not used to the idea that reality is influenced by perception you’re in for a really bad time.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by phonypc »

willio58 wrote: post #40
jamescontrol wrote: post #8

This is one of two reasons why I decided to not try anything, ever. 1. What if it’s the most amazing thing ever, like ADHD medication, what if you get insanely productive, and you then have to go back to being mediocre? 2. What if it triggers something bad. If I get 10% worse at focusing on a solving a problem? Nope

I can speak to #1. If you take a normal amount, you will not be productive at all in terms what we all feel society demands of us. All ideas of productivity fall away when you trip. Social pressures fall away, you become a kid again in a way. Fascinated by looking at grass breathing in a meadow. You still think familiar thoughts, but in a vastly different way. Now, if you microdose that’s a different story. I tried m…

>All ideas of productivity fall away when you trip.

Counter anecdote: I tend to compulsively clean my apartment on mushrooms.

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Post by hezralig »

lsdont wrote: post #17
willio58 wrote: post #6

Seems like it got the hug of death. Just based on the headline, I disagree. If you have a genetic propensity for schizophrenia or things like that then yes, avoid it. But for the vast majority of LSD users it’s a transformative experience. Drinking alcohol is socially accepted but tens of millions of Americans have some sort of diagnosed use disorder with it and almost 100k people died last year to drinking. Do we sa…

> If you have a genetic propensity for schizophrenia How would you know until something triggers it? Getting permanently mindfucked from LSD is an awful way to discover this.

Schizophrenia is a genetic disorder, so if you parents or grandparents have a history of it, then that would indicate a genetic propensity for it. I am sure there are also relevant SNPs you could look for if you have your genome decoded.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by hezralig »

lsdont wrote: post #151
willio58 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like people generally know if they have a family history of these things, or maybe that’s just me?

Maybe, maybe not. There can be a lot of surprises in one's family history. And it's all surprises if you're adopted.

Okay, but most people are not adopted.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by cogitoergofutuo »

peyton wrote: post #197
cogitoergofutuo wrote: post #104

> Halfway through my trip, about 4 hours in, visual snow started appearing on everything. > On top of that, the loudest tinnitus you could imagine. This sounds more like a DO(C/M/B/I) trip than LSD. > I had dabbled a bit before with psilocybin, and don’t think it changed my life in any real manner other than showing me what mental illness is. The author had a negative experience with psilocybin, expected that that wo…

It does sound more like 25I-NBOMe or DOI. 4 hours to visuals, the body load, the tinnitus, the HPPD, the “160ug.”

I think there is a special circle of hell for people that sell those drugs as LSD. I have personally had great experiences with DOI but only when I dosed it out myself, was very mindful of set and setting, knew about and anticipated the body load, and carved out a full 48hrs to give myself a full extra day of recovery.

If you don’t anticipate all of those things, I’d imagine it would be a very hellish experience.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by sitkack »

lazystar wrote: post #127
jerglingu wrote: post #22

Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…

When folks say that marijuana's a safe drug, it's purely in reference to the fact that it wont kill you. 100 shots of tequila in an hour will cause death; 100 tokes of marijuana will not. The problem this results in is an interesting one: marijuana growers are constantly increasing the per gram density of THC/cannabinoids in their plants. The consequence of this is that today's marijuana, compared to that of the '70s…

The thc/gram is higher, but you can easily control intake with edibles. It is easy to still get low quality shake weed, like the stuff our parents smoked in the 70s, you just have to go to the weed shops in the poorer parts of town and tell them you are making brownies. I can get an ounce of crap weed in Seattle for 30-40. Perfect for cookies or brownies.
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