The one time I tried to do this my employer would no longer approved vacation requests and refused to pay out my 3 weeks of unused vacation.
Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
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#202> If they do not understand and MUST HAVE YOU NOW, that is a red flag... Most companies, though, don’t have a problem with delaying someone’s start date. This is not true at all in my experience. Very often companies are hiring to expand a team in order to hit a certain deadline, whether it's back-to-school or a big conference or a signed contract or whatever. Or to cover for someone taking maternity, etc. If you can…
Generally speaking (small sample size), I've been able to move things out a few more weeks because I've wanted to take a vacation or hit a vesting date. But I agree in general. You can't usually move a start date out months.
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#203I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…
> But now when I "give notice" and they don't even let me try to work the next 2 weeks, I'm grateful. Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. In many states, if the employer attempts to move the termination date (without compensation), they will award wages until your resignation date... I've used this twice, and in both cases, I was sent home, but HR told the manager that any severance…
In the U.S., an employee that resigns is not entitled to severance. In this case, you would only have received severance if you had been terminated before your resignation date. If they sent you home but continued to pay you for that month, you would not have been entitled to severance.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
US person here who has participated in a lot of online advice/mentoring forums. I've never once seen a tech company immediately "fire" someone who says they're resigning like the parent comment claims. The only exceptions I can think of were when people gave multiple months of notice that they were going to quit and already had declining performance due to e.g. unhappiness about the job. If you're not performing well…
I think this MIGHT work at a lot of smaller companies, but BIG tech companies tend to have a policy that you are a security risk as soon as you admit you're quitting. I suppose that falls under the umbrella of "working for a competitor" If you work for Microsoft (for example) pretty much EVERY tech company is a competitor of theirs because they have soooo many products and services. I saw this happen multiple times.…
As a datapoint, this wasn't my experience at Google. Both times I left I gave notice and continued working (with full access) up until my negotiated last day. I don't remember anyone else getting escorted out for giving notice either; in management conversations it was always "how much longer can we convince them to stay around to facilitate a handoff", as this post discusses.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#205The article is so idealistic that I'd call it delusional. Rule 1: Know exactly what your employer's policies and past practices are. Ditto local culture. There is ~zero chance that you actually are Mr./Ms. Special, who your employer will happily treat differently. (Exception: If you have to leave for an extremely sympathetic and/or involuntary reason - fatal cancer diagnosis, drafted into army, etc. - that may actual…
> There is ~zero chance that you actually are Mr./Ms. Special, who your employer will happily treat differently.
Except when you are.
When I turned in my notice (in writing), I noted that according to my contract my notice period was X days, but that I wanted to ensure a proper handoff and would voluntarily extend my notice period to X+Y days. The employer was happy to accept X+Y, without arguing. HR even stated that they appreciated me doing it.
Then again, I'm not in the US.
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#206I've given a small e-commerce company 1 year notice. It was the best year of my professional life.
I've given 2 weeks notice at a large corporate, they showed me the door next day.
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#207No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…
Most companies have a standard resignation policy, if you don't know what the policy is at your workplace, you should really find out. Usually, you can also get the big picture by watching other people who have resigned before you.
I have worked at a company where the moment you signal your intention to resign, HR cuts you a check for your remaining PTO, your manager goes to your desk to collect your things in a box, and security escorts you out the door. But this was all well-known to everyone who worked there, so every departing employee made sure to say goodbye to their (trusted) co-workers before telling their manager.
The company I am at now, they let you stay on for basically as long as you want, but one to two weeks is typical. Most people don't make their departure fully public until their last day.
If your current company is the latter, then jumping ship without giving your manager and co-workers any kind of heads-up is a great way to burn bridges you might need in the future.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#208I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…
Something I realized. After you give notice, at most, the business needs about a week to decide what to do with the work you were handling. In tech, most projects can be deferred, and most services can go into KTLO.
After the week is done to figure that stuff out - no one really cares about you anymore. There is likewise a tacit assumption that you won’t deliver anything again (why would you?). As such it’s usually best to let someone out the door after a week.
Typically when I give notice, I simply state that the employer can do whatever over the next 2 weeks. 70% of the time, when given the choice, they will decide on a fast transition of 1 week. There hardly is anything to do the second week.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get what you're saying, but it could just be a way for a new employer to say "we have a policy of treating people fairly. We know that some new hires are going to lose out on bonuses depending when they join, so we have a policy of compensating these new hires for this loss". I wouldn't want to start off with a new employer by negotiating for a bonus buyout and then staying long enough to get my original bonus (and…
If an employer offers a bonus buyout during negotiations, that's a straight-up offer of more compensation, in the form of a signing bonus. It's hard to come up with scenarios where an employer would offer you a certain total compensation, and then revoke that offer because a different, previous company paid you a bonus. Would you expect your employer to reduce your compensation if you refinanced your mortgage, in the…
Say the company hiring you agreed to pay relocation expenses from NYC to SF. If they then learned you were actually already living in SF they wouldn't just give you the money.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
US person here who has participated in a lot of online advice/mentoring forums. I've never once seen a tech company immediately "fire" someone who says they're resigning like the parent comment claims. The only exceptions I can think of were when people gave multiple months of notice that they were going to quit and already had declining performance due to e.g. unhappiness about the job. If you're not performing well…
I think this MIGHT work at a lot of smaller companies, but BIG tech companies tend to have a policy that you are a security risk as soon as you admit you're quitting. I suppose that falls under the umbrella of "working for a competitor" If you work for Microsoft (for example) pretty much EVERY tech company is a competitor of theirs because they have soooo many products and services. I saw this happen multiple times.…
Anecdotally, this was not my experience at Microsoft in 2013 or Google in 2017.