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French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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Re: French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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Canada has the same shit, NZ too.

Apparently not for the Canadian case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Canada

>In a 2010 Quebec Court of Appeal case the court stated that a password compelled from an individual by law enforcement "is inadmissible and that renders the subsequent seizure of the data unreasonable

Quebec for the win :)

Re: French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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The US laws against self-incriminating aren't unique, and many countries go much further. In Norway, you can't be convicted for lying to police and court at all, if it concerns accusations against you or your closest ones (I think that means your spouse and kids/parents in practice), or if it would cause considerable loss of social reputation or welfare of other kinds.

Define 'many countries'.

Is it really important? I gave an example.

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Couldn't you have a max attempt lockout set pretty low and keep giving a slightly wrong variation? I mean if you dont remember, you don't remember Both my laptops and phone I need to be the one actually typing or inputting the code, I know them through muscle memory and get tripped up those few times my laptop ask for my iphone pass code, as an example

According to https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/wp-content/uploads/20... point 59, it's legal for UK authorities to get information from electronic devices, and the device owner must unlock the device for the authorities. So, in the context of this UK-focused article, you're giving people advice on how to evade a search that, in the UK, is legal. Instead, I would suggest advocating for UK people and businesses to…

It was more of a question I was curious about, than advice. I see how it could be read as advice. It made think of the ~4 days I was in bed with covid I didn't use my phone at all and the first time I did I kept getting the passcode wrong. Once it got to a high enough number I started to worry I was about to unintentionally erase my phone.

That made me think if I were in that position to hand over or unlock a device, I could imagine the stress of the situation causing errors or even wiping the device. I imagine would be hard to prove intent but probably more difficult to prove it was unintentional as well

Re: French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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According to this tweet[0] citing a (locked) article, the arrested publisher was asked by police "Do you support president Macron? Have you participated in the recent demonstrations in France? What books will soon be published by La Fabrique?". Scary stuff [0] https://twitter.com/Mathieu2jean/status/1648394577449984014

The proper personal data hygiene tips are: 0. Never take your primary personal or work cell phone to any demonstration 1. Cover your face, if you can, or wear anti-facial recognition makeup 2. Do not use social media from primary personal devices 3. Anyone intent on trying to join the cause is a cop. Until proven otherwise, anyone you meet is a cop 4. The standard response to any official questions in the future is t…

Bikelock-guy got ID and sentenced with roughly similar hygiene tips. There's no hiding really.

Cops/Feds can do parallel construction to nail you anyway. Use the fancy technology to discover what happened, build the case backwards with old fashioned techniques.

They never have to reveal the advantages they have, it's rigged.

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Totally totally insane. A revolution is coming, and it will be bloody.

Good luck, their cops confiscate pencils longer than 15cm as weapons, let alone butter knives.

Meanwhile motorcycles are stolen in broad daylight and the post code is drenched in marijuana smoke in East London.

Power over the people, including letting them sink into poverty and crime.

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Even better, the folks who frequent HN could stop aiding authoritarianism by building the tech, but that would require turning down lucrative RSUs, so I'm not holding my breath.

I totally nuked my career in communications and networking as a result of Internet mass surveillance and the prosecution of Orwellian "thought crimes". It really is a modern day witch hunt. Had to do something else, and am so much happier now that it's gone. Yes, I was so outraged and shocked from it, what the government was doing, specifically regarding Internet pornography, that I had "moral injury". A condition no…

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Re: French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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I wonder if Berlin's society is already atrophying in this department.

Germans are actually the most inoculated against that type of virus, they will be the last to fall. They are at the forefront of anti-authoritarian efforts in technology, for example. US/UK/France, on the other hand...

The fuck are you basing this on.

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I do wonder if the masses always end up voting in fascists every 50 years or so simply because they forgot that there were some things worth fighting for. Does it feel like to anyone else we are on the precipice of extremely big changes that might not be good for anyone?

Can't forget things they never experienced. Most of the voters weren't alive 50 years ago or more like 78 years ago if you're looking to the end of ww2.

Knowledge can be transmitted, if it doesn't happen (or significant distortions happen) is because we have societal failures.

Re: French publisher arrested in London for refusal to tell police his passcodes

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Totally totally insane. A revolution is coming, and it will be bloody.

Er hardly anybody in Britain cares, as much as I am outraged personally.

More of a reflection on the state of the West in general. Where the flame is lit doesn't really matter.

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> Solzhenitsyn claims that a little resistance would have completely disabled the Russian Communists. The Russian civil war lasted six years, was a bit more than 'a little resistance', killed ten million people, and it didn't quite achieve the desired effect. If anything, it grew and encouraged the winners' paranoia, and put them on a permanent war footing.

Unlike other autocracies who I find tend to be pretty chill?

Inter-war Russia was its own insane level of purges and paranoia, that put most run-of-the-mill autocrats to shame.
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