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The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by plorkyeran »

lxgr wrote: post #109
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #56

Another OS include is that Microsoft Bob was hidden in the Windows XP install CD, apparently as part of the copy protection scheme. Wonder if the Bitcoin paper has any function beyond its written content.

> Microsoft Bob was hidden in the Windows XP install CD, apparently as part of the copy protection scheme. Only insofar as it made the image slightly larger, making it slower to distribute an ISO image of the CD online. I don't think the installer actually checks its presence or anything like that. I think macOS has tried something like that though with "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext" back in the day (which actually did…

The primary purpose of DSMOSX was a basic form of DRM to ensure that the DMCA provisions against bypassing DRM applied. The poem was a legal hedge against the idea of software being declared not copyrightable or something along those lines.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by eru »

lxgr wrote: post #123
cududa wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is for a unit test around scanned documents or something, given the rest of the directory's contents

Gotta fill up these non-user-replaceable/extendable hard drives somehow! Another favorite of mine were the super-high-resolution touch pad gestures that the corresponding System Preferences pane would display in a loop to illustrate how to perform them. Must have been a few hundreds of megabytes at least.

> Gotta fill up these non-user-replaceable/extendable hard drives somehow!

I'm as cynical as the next guy, but if they wanted to fill up storage space, they wouldn't have picked a 184,292 byte pdf.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by macintux »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #195
bdcravens wrote: post #133

How long before Craig Wright, an Australian "academic" who has very dubious claims of being Satoshi and who has attempted to bully via the legal system, claims Apple owes him billions?

This is great, because he has an obligation to sue them to defend his IP. And Apple will bury him.

That’s only true, I believe, for trademark law. No such obligation exists for copyright. (I think.)

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by eru »

alex_sf wrote: post #141
doodlesdev wrote: post #124

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> blockchains existed for decades before bitcoin did That's absolutely not true. Bitcoin was the first blockchain like the ones we know today, the idea existed before but no one had implemented it in a decentralized way [0][1]. Bitcoin was also the first to solve the double spending problem. [2] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain [2]: https://en.wikipedia…

We had DHTs, we had blockchains, and double spending was solved at least 2 years before the bitcoin white paper. Satoshi combined them together in a novel form, for sure, but it’s still largely useless.

Any more background on how double spending was solved 2 years before bitcoin?

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

s1gnp0st wrote: post #198
EamonnMR wrote: post #179

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> if Bitcoin ends up being one mankind’s most important inventions That seems unlikely.

It's really disheartening how much unjustified disdain is heaped upon Bitcoin the technology by commenters here. You're going to claim you're certain that a solution to the Byzantine generals problem will have no useful consequences?

> You're going to claim you're certain that a solution to the Byzantine generals problem will have no useful consequences?

Yes.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by eru »

birdyrooster wrote: post #106
greyface- wrote: post #16

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$ wget https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf [...] $ openssl sha256 bitcoin.pdf SHA256(bitcoin.pdf)= b1674191a88ec5cdd733e4240a81803105dc412d6c6708d53ab94fc248f4f553 $ openssl sha256 /System/Library/Image\ Capture/Devices/VirtualScanner.app/Contents/Resources/simpledoc.pdf SHA256(/System/Library/Image Capture/Devices/VirtualScanner.app/Contents/Resources/simpledoc.pdf)= b1674191a88ec5cdd733e4240a81803105dc412d6c6708d53ab94…

and a universal hash collision attack!? this is amazing stuff from apple

They'd also need great compression to put more inside the pdf.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by eru »

trogdor wrote: post #85
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #79

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the other 97% is bots sending small amounts of bitcoins back and forth to each other for no reason whatsoever

In fairness, that kind of thing arguably happens with stocks as well, though algorithmic trading. Though it’s not small amounts.

Though they do have reasons. But the 'bots' in Bitcoin probably have too. After all, there are transaction costs.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by eru »

lxgr wrote: post #109
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #56

Another OS include is that Microsoft Bob was hidden in the Windows XP install CD, apparently as part of the copy protection scheme. Wonder if the Bitcoin paper has any function beyond its written content.

> Microsoft Bob was hidden in the Windows XP install CD, apparently as part of the copy protection scheme. Only insofar as it made the image slightly larger, making it slower to distribute an ISO image of the CD online. I don't think the installer actually checks its presence or anything like that. I think macOS has tried something like that though with "Don't Steal Mac OS X.kext" back in the day (which actually did…

> I don't think the installer actually checks its presence or anything like that.

The article linked from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35461474 says that the installer checked.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by infamouscow »

throwaway290 wrote: post #171
RestlessMind wrote: post #76

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And also to fight oppressive governments. Compiled some examples here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32406095 Though those governments would love people like you who paint all the use cases as "organized crime, terrorism" etc

And also to support oppressive governments by helping work around sanctions?

You may not be aware of how Bitcoin has consistently aided people facing extreme and dire circumstances worldwide, caused by the sanctions you seem to hold in high esteem.

Every time you cheer for sanctions, you're cheering for the suffering and death of the most vulnerable people in the world under the guise that somehow a miracle will arise and the malnourished and starving will topple an already oppressive regime. Bitcoin has saved countless many from ruin from within these totalitarian states, despite their attempts at enforcing bans. It also doesn't help that marionettes echo propaganda created by media organizations, and those companies are owned by billionaire elites that benefit the most from Western sanctions.

Anyone supporting this is the enemy of the people and deserves everything that comes of them.

Re: The Bitcoin whitepaper is hidden in every copy of macOS

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Post by gst »

walrus01 wrote: post #167
paxys wrote: post #163

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> freely distributable Is it though? The whitepaper wasn't released with any license. The original author still holds the copyright. I'm going to guess someone from Apple's legal team is pretty pissed right about now.

As the identity of "Satoshi Nakamoto" is extremely unclear, the only way that the real satoshi could identify themselves now is by moving a bitcoin out of one of the very early wallets, which nobody has been able to do. The australian guy named Craig Wright claiming to be Satoshi was clearly a fraud. How would a person showing up claiming to be Satoshi enforce copyright on this if they can't prove they're the origina…

"Faketoshi" already tried that in the past and was successful in the UK due to a default judgement: https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/06/29/uk-court-orders-...
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