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My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by LAC-Tech »

ihateolives wrote: post #126
nextos wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the OP just needed to enable e.g. Nouveau with the appropriate kernel module parameters? I am regularly using a 14 year-old MacBook on plain X and it is surprisingly fast.

> just needed to enable e.g. Nouveau with the appropriate kernel module parameters? And that's why Linux will stay in the server for majority of people, not on their desktop. "You just need to enable something with some parameters and you're all set!" Seriously?

Yes, seriously.

I know how to enable something with parameters.

if others don't - that's fine. They can learn or they can deal with other operating systems.

I really don't care.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by selfhoster11 »

locusofself wrote: post #131

For quite a long while I feel like my operating system has been Chrome and VS Code, maybe a few other things. I work on both Windows and mac, and forget for extended periods of time what computer I'm even using.

That’s a fair point, and to some extent I think it’s true - especially in modern networked environments.

Short of booting directly into the browser, you’ll still need some minimal UI, at least for switching between VS Code and your browser of choice. That’s the part where the modern OS should not get in the way, but often does.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by Dave3of5 »

I don't really see why windows XP is a better UI. There's lots of stuff that is majorly missing compared to a more modern OS.

This sounds like many I talk to in that they refuse to learn or make any changes in their life. I don't think this is a positive attitude to have. He also sounds like a major cheapskate and my country is full of people like this very hard to argue why spending your money is a good thing (within reason).

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by codedokode »

I switched to Linux from Windows XP. Linux is great in almost every aspect except for memory usage and lots of tiny bugs and things getting constantly broken. If you are not fine with running commands in terminal, it might not work for you.

Recent example: in Fedora the firewall in default configuration blocks DHCP packets when you try to share Internet via bluetooth. In Windows traditions no message is displayed on screen nor printed to logs. Wireshark also doesn't show that packets are dropped by firewall. Takes a lot of time to figure out why the client sends DHCP requests and never gets a reply. Why do they enable firewall by default? And if they enable it, why didn't they configure all necessary services properly? I am not running a server in a datacenter, it is more an osbtacle for me. By the way, Windows XP had no such problem.

But Linux is better than Windows. For example, Windows 11 doesn't allow to use a computer until you configure a network connection. It has data collection without opt-out, advertisement and involuntary updates.

And Linux is better than MacOS because it doesn't make you pay three times more for hardware and get a laptop with soldered RAM and SSD. It is surprising that they have premium prices and at the same time try to save several cents on sockets.

If only Linux didn't have those tiny bugs everywhere it could be a viable alternative for people not familiar with console.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by teddyh »

causality0 wrote: post #68
branon wrote: post #57

This is not a sensible or technically sound thing to do. It is purely irrational. Win7 is already stuck on Chrome 110/111(?). You are not gaining much by doing this, and are assuming significant risk. Even if specific portions can be quantified away, it's the unknown unknowns that should scare you. Try a Linux distro again maybe? With some non-default themes and Wine, it really should make a better WinXP than WinXP.…

"We're going to write security updates for this OS but we won't give them to you" is such psychopathic behavior.

s/security updates for this OS/software/

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by sanitycheck »

lmm wrote: post #29
thriftwy wrote: post #2

None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP and at least one (8) was a complete disaster, the shock waves from that catastrophe still rumbling around. By failing to reproduce that success, Microsoft has ceded most of the moral market share to Apple. Though, as a Linux user, every time I see a Mac desktop I can't resist noticing how often would it lock up and display that rotating "busy" mouse cur…

> None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP Huh? XP added nothing to 2000 except useless bling.

My thoughts exactly! Except I wouldn't call it bling, I'd call it a hideous Fisher Price aesthetic.

I stuck with 2000 as long as I could before gaming (and maybe.. a certain version of Visual Studio?) eventually forced a switch to XP (with the "classic" theme).

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by kerpotgh »

nextos wrote: post #112
javchz wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would bet on GPU driver issues. Some cards without the right driver can force CPU rendering making it extremely slow

Maybe the OP just needed to enable e.g. Nouveau with the appropriate kernel module parameters? I am regularly using a 14 year-old MacBook on plain X and it is surprisingly fast.

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Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by planede »

hippich wrote: post #109
nine_k wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won't a modern version of Chromium build for XP, with some tweaking?

From my experience, there is a lot of software that will not build for platform older than 7/2008 due to missing APIs. Visual studio stopped support for xp compilation awhile ago. You still can use clang or such for simple programs today, but chromium is probably too complicated to port at this point.

Chromium already builds with clang + libc++ on every platform, including Windows.
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