> Microsoft also warned today that after starting next month, there wouldn't be any other preview cumulative updates for supported Windows 10 versions.
Well, what a relief. All the more reason to stick to Win10 as long as possible ;)
Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu
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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Longtime Windows users here—migrating away because the OS has become a marketing tool instead of the productivity behemoth that it once was. Yes, there are still TONS OF THINGS THAT WINDOWS DOES BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER OS, but what Windows is becoming is causing me to overlook this. The next step for me here will be migrating clients off of Windows on their machines too.
I fully switched to a fedora because of these ads, I don't really watch news, yet there were some in my home menu. The other one was the forced bottom Taskbar, I have tried, surely I handle it for longer than I originally thought, but screw that.
Worse is that the news is in a language I don’t even understand despite my OS language set to English.
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#203I'll just remind everybody that on Linux we have VFIO, where you can passthrough your videocard to Windows virtual-machine, and have almost native gaming. As a big plus, your Win VM's disk C:\ is stored in a file, which you can backup and restore any time you want and not care about viruses/trojans/malware.
I may look into that, especially now that I've upgraded to a platform where I have both dedicated and integrated graphics. My current worries are: - I have a VR headset, how much work and how functional is it to use under a VM? I heard you'd have to passthrough the entire USB controller which is.. not great - Anticheat still isnt happy about VMs right? That would cut a couple games I'm currently into - How annoying i…
1) most motherboards have several USB controllers, so passing through one of them is a no-brainer. then you just plug a VR into on of those ports
2) mostly correct
3) I set up Samba, so /mnt/folder/ in Linux is mounted as a connected network drive F:\ in Win VM. Works for me.
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#204I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.
If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…
> ...you launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads.
I think it's actually different. These are game stores. When I start Steam or EGS I expect to see game promotions (and *only* game promotions!) and targeting actually works there (e.g. I discovered a couple of games there I then bought and enjoyed).
And finally, at least in Steam I can start directly into my library view, skipping the home screen 'ads'. I would call all that completely acceptable, devoid of the usual dark patterns.
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#205Is there a paid version of the product that's add free?
Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
For what it's worth, a ton of people inside of MSFT are opposed to these changes. The few responsible for them are answering to overwhelming pressure from the Finance side. Every time something like this ships out, guaranteed just about every CVP fields angry/annoyed/exasperated complaints about it.
Unfortunately, it's perfectly logical. On the one hand you have $x/year and the other you have $0/year. The argument that all this marketing stuff in the OS is having a negative financial effect is extremely hard to prove. This is where having a strong minded CEO comes into play. You literally have to have someone who can say "although this makes us less money, this is correct approach". In an organization whose enti…
On the one hand you have $x/year and the other you have $0/year.
That's the wrong metric; you should look at the LTV. Guess what: pissing off users reduces your LTV significantly. If their users are too dumb or tasteless to care then they deserve each other.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows has been imminently dying since the early 00s, and still seems to be in mortal peril every day.
It has definitely NOT been dying since early 00s. The first definable moment where I think Windows started being at risk was release of iPhone and then smartphones that followed it (so say 2008). But even then it wasn't yet clear that smartphones will take over the world so thoroughly and drive people from using laptops. Until that moment I would definitely project that the future will see more and more people having…
It was dying before the iPhone due to Linux overtaking desktops
Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu
#208I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.
When you've been fed junk for so long you forget what food tastes like.
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#209Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…
They do and it is absurd. I bought Win11 Pro from here for about $20, the price has since gone up a bit: https://www.vip-urcdkey.com/key/microsoft-windows-11-pro-oem...
In Hungary you can get them as cheap as $7-$10, because of the EU regulation that you can't exclusively bundle hardware and software. Meanwhile the retail version is $91, for the cheapest Home version. Ridiculous.
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#210Been on Linux Mint for 4 years now, and never looked back. Windows is dead to me.