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Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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I have never seen so much false narrative, misunderstanding, speculation and conspiracy rabbit holes in a HN post.

Wild to see so many people conjecturing about one of the most scrutinised and researched VPN providers in the world, whose source code is now available for all to see and not a single person, here or on Reddit has been able to flag any code of concern and the result is just pure conspiracy with zero evidence.

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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NordVPN do logs and you will get caught if you do crimes using their services. It happened before during the Dutch KPN blackmail case and it will happen again. Everyone at BalCCon was warned about this a few years ago.

Tried to find more about this but can't find anything, do you have a link please

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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post #9

Since there is so much criticism here of NordVPN (in general, not for open-sourcing), what are the VPNs that people like?

A tonne of people here recommending Mullvad, which is great - they're great - but they don't offer the main selling point of most VPNs, so I feel this question needs qualification:

What are you looking for a VPN for. As much as the ads misrepresent the security & privacy aspects of NordVPN, &c., the vast majority of people use VPNs to watch region-restricted media. Mullvad does not support this.

So ... who's the best provider for watching region-restricted media?

NordVPN honestly seems like a very competitive option here

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

#204

NordVPN, eh? I'll never forget there was a reddit thread on /r/vpn where a NordVPN customer complained about a billing issue or something. NordVPN's official response was to get defensive; they proceeded to actually publicly post a screenshot which included the customer's email address . I couldn't believe it. That tells you all you need to know about NordVPN's terrible attitude towards privacy.

> terrible attitude towards privacy

A VPN is inherently not a privacy tool. It is perceived that way because of the acronym Virtual 'Private' Network but privacy is not in the design specs at all.

It's just for tunneling over untrusted networks like Starbucks Wi-Fi and spoofing your geo-location. That's it. You can't verify the no-logs claims by providers unless you're physically in their building and auditing the setup yourself.

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

#206

I am taking a look at this. Now do Grammarly next, if we want to go by annoying Youtube ads. Someone should tell Grammarly that they are being excessive and too much advertising actually turns people off your product.

Thats just your opinion. But now when anybody thinks of a website that can help them with writing documents, especially if English isn't their native language, there is exactly one website that comes to everyones minds. In fact, I don't know of a single competitor to mind, that's pretty effective marketing if you ask me.

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear there's a dirty secret that more and more companies are doing this to make things like Netflix that block VPNs "just work" though their services. Not sure how true this is or how widespread, though.

That is terrifying! So someone could access illegal content through my home internet connection (while I have a VPN running)?

Yep!

"Exit node" users and VPN customers don't need to be in the same set, though: It's entirely possible that the VPN operator buys residential IP forwarding volume and includes access to it as part of their product offering.

That doesn't make things much better for unwitting users sharing their internet connectivity with insufficient or no education, though...

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know for sure that Mullvad sells DNS data? They claim to not log anything, including DNS.

Mullvad does not log anything and it makes sense. You can literally pay with an envelope of cash and you will receive a single Account ID to activate your VPN. You don't even provide any personal details. Mullvad is the best privacy-focused VPN, hands down.

> Mullvad does not log anything and it makes sense.

That might well be true, but anonymous payments are no proof, or even supporting evidence, for your claim.

It could still be very lucrative to resell data in the form of "users who access foo.com often also access bar.com" – and you can probably see why that could easily be deanonymizing.

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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Hey, Vykintas from NordVPN here. Hackernews looks to be a tough crowd, so I wanted to add a few things. Today as you correctly spotted we released a Linux app as well as Libtelio and Libdrop open source - a step towards more transparency. Can see quite a few conspiracy theories there, happy to address them. While no service out there is perfect, we are aiming to create the best VPN service. Nord isn't keeping any logs, is continuosly audited and since today looking to build in the open. Nord has never been a part of any kind of botnet.

Besides open sourcing - today we launched Meshnet free so you don't need a subscription to use it to connect your own devices, spin up your own VPN server etc. Hope it will be useful.

If you have doubts about Nord - I will try to answer your questions.

Re: NordVPN library and client code open-sourced

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post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> completely rely on the unsophisticated masses, to whom a computer is a magical box of fairy dust that plays Netflix shows And that’s perfectly fine - computers are a tool, enabling valuable usecases for everyone.

>And that’s perfectly fine - computers are a tool, enabling valuable usecases for everyone. Of course. But the arbitrage of that knowledge leaves open all kinds of profitable businesses, including shady VPNs.

I fully agree that informed consent is necessary before funnelling connections for others, esp. given varying local laws around internet traffic responsibility.

However, I also think this is the only way to bypass streaming sites blocking VPNs - the whole reason for using such a service in the first place.

IMHO the shadiness is only around consent and not the means. Unfortunate, but such is reality.

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