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Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by sphars » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:36 AM UTC

gjkood wrote: post #198

kajika91 wrote: post #183

My opinion on this : * Web with python : yes, make sense, python is very friendly it's kind of the closest to no-code we can do * No benchmark : ouch, no way I am touching this without knowing, at least in the big picture, what to expect * Front-end : so this is a wrapper of Chackra UI which is itself a wrapper of React (which is the slowest framework out there) -> not really what I am looking for. I can understand t…

If you don't mind, can you clarify what is the fast front-end framework that you mentioned above?

I think they had a typo and meant to say Chakra UI: https://chakra-ui.com/

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by cookingrobot » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:41 AM UTC

Nice. FYI, on iOS Safari you can’t scroll the page if the swipe starts on a chart component.

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by kumarvvr » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:41 AM UTC

The response time of buttons is glaring. Is it a quirk of the implementation or that the system is slow?

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by haolez » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:51 AM UTC

lo5 wrote: post #191

Looks similar to Nitro https://nitro.h2o.ai/ and Wave https://wave.h2o.ai/ - both open source. Nitro already works with WebAssembly via Pyodide. (Author here)

Hey! What's the difference between Nitro and Wave? Wave seems like a great fit for my usage.

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by ericls » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:55 AM UTC

hm.. making it only do web seems like a missed opportunity. How hard would it be to make it run on native or other platforms?

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by d4rkp4ttern » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 2:22 AM UTC

Might want to think about the name. Pinecone is a relatively recent startup specializing in vector databases.

https://www.pinecone.io/

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by lowii » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 2:24 AM UTC

kajika91 wrote: post #183

My opinion on this : * Web with python : yes, make sense, python is very friendly it's kind of the closest to no-code we can do * No benchmark : ouch, no way I am touching this without knowing, at least in the big picture, what to expect * Front-end : so this is a wrapper of Chackra UI which is itself a wrapper of React (which is the slowest framework out there) -> not really what I am looking for. I can understand t…

Any source on react being one of the slower frameworks and recommendations for alternatives? Just asking out of curiosity. I've been using Angular at work and always heard that React was a more performant framework.

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by anigbrowl » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 2:36 AM UTC

It looks cool, but I'm not clear on what the add is over existing solutions like Plotly/Dash?

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by pruthvishetty » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 2:44 AM UTC

This is amazing! Definitely it has advantages over Streamlit in terms of utilities and customization. Please change the name, if you can, as it's conflicting with Pinecone, another good tool I use.

Re: Launch HN: Pynecone (YC W23) – Web Apps in Pure Python

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Post by eddsh1994 » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 2:49 AM UTC

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #169

jrumbut wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

JS is complicated because the browser environment is complicated. If it's going to be rendered by and live in a web browser it will either be complicated or limited in some way (like low code/no code tools).

That's not really true. It's complicated because the language is one of the worst to manage.

It's not really any worse than Python or Ruby, but you also get TypeScript which helps