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I understand that they may need to adjust prices, but having a search limit just feels ... bad. Imaging being on the go, trying to look something up quickly, only to be presented with the message > Search limit reached.
That's not how it works. If you go over the limit you pay per search. Not totally sure that's better but still :P
I really wish they sent an email about it. In my account settings, the option "Receive Product Updates" is turned on and in my opinion updating pricing counts as a (huge) product update. If I hadn't found this HN post, I wouldn't have been informed about any changes.
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Thanks for providing the link. I used 517 searches in February. For March I look to be using 700 searches. Seems like the pro plan will be sufficient for me.
Flip side, it's not uncommon for me to do 200+ searches a day. My lowest month was 900 searches but I went over 1800 frequently. Not worth $25/m for me personally at that point. I was sold on the idea of being grandfathered in at $10/m...
I just updated my monthly subscription to annual for just that purpose.
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I was finding it hard to justify the current price. This new pricing is madness to me. I think their rationale about the 'average number of searches' is misguided - what about the average number from people who are Kagi users? Those are the ones willing to pay for search, which I'd argue are currently not the 'average internet user'.
In the FAQ they they mention the average Kagi user does 700 searches a month. Perhaps uncoincidentally, the $10/month plan includes exactly that many searches.
Without even considering the early adopter benefit, this pricing update for me is a nothing-burger.
Whelp, after these account changes I won't find out. I absolutely don't want to have to think about metering my search queries per day and would bet that the vast majority of users feel the same.
Hopefully Kagi can figure out a way to control their costs better and/or figure out a more accessible revenue strategy. Avoiding piling on the latest AI hype would be a good start...
I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
Sorry I don’t understand this POV. We know Kagi is losing money on that pricing. ( They have stated it multiple times ). They offer options to donate for those willing to help and chip in. They now updated the pricing model. They gave you extra 300 on top of their current pricing. The extra 600 search will only cost you $9 more, slightly more than what you tipped them. So what is wrong ? And you are supporting their…
Still using google for my day job since I figure it would tip me way over the point where it would be sustainable. Sort of justified it to myself that it's technically "my employers" privacy since I'm googling things related to developing their product and nothing to do with me personally.
In saying that I thought/hoped they would put in a huge drive to try and minimize the cost of search over time, not just rely on bumping up end user pricing. I don't think I can justify the price of the unlimited plan, which is what I would need if I actually used it on all my devices. That would be $40 NZD a month! For context that's more then I pay for Netflix, Disney+ and Crunchyroll combined.
Tiny copywriting nit in case anyone from Kagi is here: > The new Standard plan pricing will be $5/month, with 200 free searches included. They’re not free; they’re $5/month. I know it sounds pedantic but on first read I thought, ok, so 200 free searches in addition to whatever you get for $5, which is… what? It makes it feel more complex than it is.
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Agreed. I also don’t like how they are jumping on the AI bandwagon and splitting their efforts between search, a pointless new browser, and AI. It’s like Google all over again. I’m happy to give them $10 or $25 per month for excellent search and privacy. But I’m really not interested in funding their other junk.
An important tidbit from their Discord. The AI is just the commercial one from OpenAI. Paying $5 per 50 search summaries for it according to the founder of Kagi.[1] It is not in-house. 1: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925992877602000967/... (Backup: https://imgur.com/McoRELC )
But good lord, that's such a dumb, dumb, dumb decision to integrate this thing onto Kagi then
I'll keep my subscription on the 10usd one, but yeah this drops my interest on the company precipitously and rather than just recommend it, I will just not, or do it with a warning that the roi of subscribing is only so-so