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Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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ChatGPT API examples are missing (what to use instead of completions?) and also missing in playground. Hope they will add them soon.

We have added them to our playground at https://trypromptly.com if you want to check them out. https://twitter.com/ajhai/status/1631020290502463489 has a quick demo

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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post #108

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> I have no idea how OpenAI can make money on this. I did some quick calculation. We know the number of floating point operations per token for inference is approximately twice the number of parameters(175B). Assuming they use 16 bit floating point, and have 50% of peak efficiency, A100 could do 300 trillion flop/s(peak 624[0]). 1 hour of A100 gives openAI $0.002/ktok * (300,000/175/2/1000)ktok/sec * 3600=$6.1 back.…

Isn’t it 2.25 per hour per a100?

Its a good baseline, but I very much doubt that openAI is paying anywhere near the public cost for their compute allocation.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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It's amazing that "being two months out of date" in AI means that you are already a dinosaur

Agriculture reduced the global human economy/resource production doubling time from 100,000s of years to 1000s of years. Industrial revolution dropped it from 1000s to 10s or even 1s. If AI follows the same path it becomes 0.1 - 0.01 years. Your 401k wouldn't need 40 years to build a comfortable retirement, only 4 weeks.

I understand you’re joking, but surely it’s asymptotic to some multiple of human gestational periods.

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post #16

Pricing is good because OpenAI does not need to make any money but needs data for feedback, if everyone switches to open source ( Llama etc. ) they won't get the data they need. Google is testing their system internally with XX thousand users, OpenAI with XXX million users ...

I think they are actually selling this service at a price point that is profitable.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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> It is priced at $0.002 per 1k tokens, which is 10x cheaper than our existing GPT-3.5 models. This is a massive, massive deal. For context, the reason GPT-3 apps took off over the past few months before ChatGPT went viral is because a) text-davinci-003 was released and was a significant performance increase and b) the cost was cut from $0.06/1k tokens to $0.02/1k tokens, which made consumer applications feasible wit…

Can you explain what tokens are in this context? Edit: and better yet, is there a good resource for learning the vernacular in general? Should I just read something like "Dive into Deep Learning"?

no the language model decides what a token is

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

#206

I hope this pricing impacts ChatGPT+ $20 is equivalent to what, 10,000,000 tokens? At ~750 words/1k tokens, that’s 7.5 million words per month, or roughly 250,000 words per day, 10,416 words per hour, 173 words per minute, every minute, 24/7. I uh, do not have that big of a utilization need. It’s kind of weird to vastly overpay

Most of the value for me with ChatGPT+ is getting access when the system is at capacity.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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You are like 2 months out of date. Stable diffusion now has a massive ecosystem around it (civitai/automatic1111), that when used well, completely crushes any competitors in terms of the images it produces. Midjourney is still competitive, but mostly because its easier to use. Dalle2 will get you laughed out of the room in any ai art discussion.

Stable diffusion might have a reasonable eco system around it, but automatic1111 was always around and 'completely crushes any competitors' is rather rich, Midjourney is still considered the standard as far as I was aware. I used both again recently and the difference was very clear, midjourney is leaps and bounds above anything else. Sure, stable diffusion has more control over the output, but the images are usually…

I thought Midjourney was better as well, until I saw some recent videos from Corridor Crew on Youtube. For those who don't know, this is a VFX studio in LA that tries to keep at the cutting-edge of video production techniques and posts content to their Youtube channel, and they have a massive number of followers and several viral videos.

They recently created a full 7-minute anime using Stable Diffusion with their own models and their existing video production gear, I'll post the links and let the results speak for themselves

The actual 7-minute anime piece produced using SD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y

Behind the scenes: "Did we change anime forever?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9LX9HSQkWo "VFX reveal before and after" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBSmQdL_Ow

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

#208

I hope this pricing impacts ChatGPT+ $20 is equivalent to what, 10,000,000 tokens? At ~750 words/1k tokens, that’s 7.5 million words per month, or roughly 250,000 words per day, 10,416 words per hour, 173 words per minute, every minute, 24/7. I uh, do not have that big of a utilization need. It’s kind of weird to vastly overpay

If you think you're overpaying just hit the API yourself.

Any idea how to encode the previous messages when sending a followup question? E.g.:

1. I ask Q1

2. API responds with A1

3. I ask Q2, but want it to preserve Q1 and A1 as context

Does Q2 just prefix the conversation like this?

„I previously asked {Q1}, to which you answered {A1}. {Q2}“

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are like 2 months out of date. Stable diffusion now has a massive ecosystem around it (civitai/automatic1111), that when used well, completely crushes any competitors in terms of the images it produces. Midjourney is still competitive, but mostly because its easier to use. Dalle2 will get you laughed out of the room in any ai art discussion.

Stable diffusion might have a reasonable eco system around it, but automatic1111 was always around and 'completely crushes any competitors' is rather rich, Midjourney is still considered the standard as far as I was aware. I used both again recently and the difference was very clear, midjourney is leaps and bounds above anything else. Sure, stable diffusion has more control over the output, but the images are usually…

No one uses raw stable diffusion though, there are model mixes for whatever usecase you have.
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