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Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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I have been using qutebrowser for some time now and it's pretty nice if you can accept having a browser without UBlock Origin and other extensions ranging from nice-to-have to obligatory. The main advantage and the reason and I can't get myself to switch to Firefox is that it's vim-UX is just flawless. It works amazingly well and is just magnitudes better than any Firefox or Chrome extension that adds vim-UX on top s…

> pretty nice if you can accept having a browser without UBlock Origin Just for potential readers who might not be aware: qutebrowser ships with its own inbuild adblocker though, so you're entirely left adrift in the ad-trashpile that is the Web today. Qutebrowser isn't my daily driver (mainly because I found it a pain to configure), but from my limited experience, the adblocking works pretty well.

> so you're entirely left adrift

so you're *not* entirely left adrift

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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> Isn't that just stressful? No, why would it be? It's sort of my curated list of things to check out when I have a free moment, just like HN is. HN curates the Internet for potentially interesting things for hackers, and I further curate from that (and other sources) for things that interest me, and have them as open tabs. It's no more "stressful" than knowing the fact that there are thousands of interesting HN link…

Do you have a way of partitioning off what you're currently working on from the rest of the queue? I feel like I would constantly get distracted with hundreds of potentially interesting things sitting at the top of my screen.

Oh, TreeStyleTabs is a crucial element of this, I'd definitely go mad without it. The stuff I'm currently working on is generally at the bottom of that vertical sidebar, and I rarely venture beyond that area when I'm actively working.

The grouping of tabs into trees also helps with keeping them (pretty much self-)organized. Vimium's "search open tabs" shortcut is also very useful, if I need a specific tab right now.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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I used Vimperator on Firefox about 10 years ago. Back then it was fantastic, but I think the add-on environment has changed in FF (WebExtensions) since then and add-ons aren't as powerful. I've used Vimium on Chrome. Every few years I get excited, install it, feel 10x more productive, and then a few days later uninstall it. As I recall, it doesn't work on the New Tab page. It doesn't work if the address bar is in foc…

I have vimium configured to just use f, F, and alt+j and k to move between tabs. That's all I really need and it doesn't tend to conflict with the web sites I use.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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I find Surfingkeys to be much superior to vimium. Works consistently in all sites. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/surfingkeys/gfblio...

For the privacy-conscious interested in SK, it may be worth a read of this GH issue: https://github.com/brookhong/Surfingkeys/issues/1796 I empathise with the author wanting to make a buck but it's hard to reconcile the approach he took with the level of trust granted to this extension.

it looks more naive than malicious ... I just donated to support him.

But I agree, there is so much trust with extensions like this it isn't even about intent.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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IIRC Vimium was the one that was pure hotkeys, no commands. Waaay back when Vimperator died with Firefox Quantum, I tried a bunch of different addons that still worked and Vimium was probably the least powerful of them. Currently I use Vim Vixen[0]. It's still nowhere near as feature-full as Vimperator was, but nothing can be nowadays. My only real complaint about it is how link hints don't let you complete with the…

Tridactyl does let filter links like that with `:set hintfiltermode vimperator` and `:set hintchars 1234567890`. Vim Vixen unfortunately has been unmaintained since May [1]. If anyone knows ueokande personally, could they let him know that I would be happy to help get some releases out? I sent an email yesterday but I am not optimistic as it seems like quite a few people have tried over the last few months. [1]: http…

Oh nice. I had to make a few other tweaks, like making j/k not scroll as far, but it looks like I'll just be using Tridactyl now.

Edit: btw the hintfiltermode Tridactyl calls "vimperator-reflow" is what Vimperator actually did

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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The "f" mode in Vimium is just wonderful. I wish that I could have a system-wide keyboard just like that. I seem to remember in Windows 7, there was some sort of voice assistant, that could similarly put a label on every visible clickable element. That was for voice command, but would be great for keyboard navigation, too.

kitty kittens does that in terminal https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/kittens/hints/

there is multiple easy-motions or variant implementation in the major editors

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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I'm not who asked, but I can explain my own and other's perspective: don't passively accumulate detritus. If you want to remember something , you must write it down or take a note, just like if you were in school. Don't just "throw another tab on the pile". That's like a .txt file full of links you're just pasting and pasting into. Are you really ever going to go and review those links? Folks who successfully have hu…

Kudos. If I need to do something or return to something it becomes a card in Trello, not a tab which I always need to evaluate if I need it open or not, is it important or not, what did I want to do with this information last time I saw it etc. And Trello card is an action item which will eventually get to the "DONE" column, will be decomposed into actionable items or will be deleted/archived during the next review e…

Yeah, I've tried the Trello board, and writing down notes, org-mode and other and I have a large graveyard of all of those that get lost. I think for me, tabs remain successful because they are ever-present and insert themselves into

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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I love being able to easily navigate between tabs (a/J and s/K for me), go back/forward (h and l), open the current tab in a new window, close the current tab, etc. though (of course) the killer feature is "link highlighting" or whatever it's called. You can also enable "link highlighting" where selecting a link copies the URL. I also find that occasionally useful! I can't use the web without vimium.

I also found it useful to have a link bind that just focuses the link element, often that can open up hover menus or trigger other focus/hover CSS changes.

oh, that's neat! I'll try that.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Auditing each tool by ourselves would cost a lot of time. Not to mention that it would not be a one-time thing. At each update, another check would be required for "peace of mind". Curious to discuss if there is a way to trust these extensions without establishing ourselves that the code is not harmful.

But you don't audit it entirely by yourself. Nor were you expected to before. It's the same idea as with other programs or add-ons you use. Don't you use some add-ons in the code editor you use not authored by the authors of the editor itself? And why would you believe the authors of the editor in the first place? Of course you need to do some due diligence, but it isn't anywhere near as taxing as you seem to think.…

It seems it would depend on the persons risk tolerance.

And assessing risk of freely available open source software is still difficult, you either rely on all the authors being standup citizens, or on the bulk of the reviewers to be truthful and knowledgeable.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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What do you miss about native scrolling? IMO the scrolling in Tridactyl is better than native as it can work even when the page has put focus somewhere daft (like a pop-up).

It's more about 'feeling' native than actually being native. I managed to reinstall VimFX and it doesn't quite scroll like the arrow keys, either. But its scrolling speed still feels more natural than either Vimium or Tridactyl, although it's a bit slow. Tridactyl's huge jumps are annoying to me, as is Vimium's excess smoothness. In Vim, I hit j once to scroll one line, same as .

> Tridactyl's huge jumps are annoying to me

You can change that easily with `:bind j scrollline 1` and `:bind k scrollline 1` :)

The default bind was a conscious choice to break with tradition with Vimperator because everyone I knew rebound j/k to scroll further.

I'm glad you got VimFx working though!

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