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Google stopping coding competitions

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Re: Google stopping coding competitions

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Post by mustacheemperor »

mikrl wrote: post #48
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #39

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> Tip outs are better in bougie joints frequented by tech workers. This sounds a little trickle-downy. Why not strive for an economy where people doing important work like feeding their communities just... Don't need to be tipped? I know it sounds crazy in today-terms, but if it makes any sense, it makes tipping culture look like more of a problem than a boon to anyone receiving the tips.

Servers love tip out. They can make hundreds a night and possibly even what a junior SWE can (pro rata) if they’re good. If you want fierce resistance from servers - ask them to split tips more equitably with the kitchen - offer to abolish the tip system altogether and just pay them $15/h flat, hell even $25/h

I think the result of this survey would differ considerably at the pub/cafe in Prineville Oregon vs a steakhouse in downtown San Francisco, and across the country there's a lot more Prinevilles than San Franciscos.

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Post by apetresc »

andrepd wrote: post #70
graphGL wrote: post #5

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ChatGPT

The program who can't answer anything that is not the stackoverflow answer you get when you Google your prompt? I don't follow.

ChatGPT solved many of the AoC 2022 problems with no assistance, and those are written in an even more obfuscated style than GCJ. I imagine the LLMs of this summer and next summer would blow through most of the early rounds of GCJ with ease.

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Post by random314 »

bsaul wrote: post #126
lwneal wrote: post #115

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Sundar is the Steve Ballmer of Google. And that's fine! Ballmer was a competent if uninspiring CEO: Microsoft under his leadership missed many new opportunities, but still made lots of money. Most importantly, Ballmer's tenure is what made it possible for Satya Nadella to pivot Microsoft into what it is today. Realistically, Windows Phone was never going to beat Apple, Bing was not going to beat Google, Yammer was no…

Fully disagree with windows phone. It never reached enough maturity to be a true competitor to ios, but it absolutely could have won over android. the gui was truely innovative (with the « tiles » system), and the general feeling and smoothness was absolutely better than android. Microsoft missed a huge opportunity there. It never was a technical problem, MS knows how to make operating system. It was only a strategic…

Windows phone was kneecapped by Sinofsky who abandoned .net for windows 8 app development for windows 8.

There were 200K apps in the windows phone store, that would have run on day one when windows 8 released. Instead Sinofsky wanted to kneecap devdiv, and created windows rt API, which was a C++ mess that led to developers completely abandoning the windows platform.

All app development on windows phone stopped when windows rt for windows 8 was announced. Windows phone was miles ahead of Android at that point. In terms of apps they had 200K in comparison to Androids 500-800K apps.

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Post by dqpb »

Jun8 wrote: post #6

Is there any other, more gracious, way to interpret this as Google retiring for on being Google, if so I’d like to know. I think the direct impact of these competitions to hiring were minimal. The biggest impact was to have thousands perhaps millions of coders and researchers see Google as the place to be. As the place that gets it. The Mecca of coderdom, if you will. Now they are just another corporation. I hope the…

Google is winding down and that's ok! There many exciting things to work on, and those things should be owned by the engineers working on them.

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Post by rubslopes »

eitland wrote: post #83
shadowgovt wrote: post #75

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Neither do the nerd complainers, apart from scoping their search to a few trusted information repositories (Reddit, StackOverflow, &c). Nobody's cracked the "general search across the whole Internet" nut better than Google has right now. But that nut itself has encountered challenges in yielding value as of late.

Good news: kagi.com is mostly a shell over Google and Bings apis, but they do quality control and they are building their own index. I have paid for months from my own pocket and since I started using it, search doesn't drive me mad anymore. It is not perfect, but anytime I find a problem now a real human verifies it or ask for clarification within hours and a fix is made an pushed with a reference to my report. Also…

I'm not a Kagi subscriber, but I'll be. Yesterday I was looking for a pdf reader app with a specific feature. Nor Google nor Bing helped me; result pages were almost 100% ads (most by Adobe). I was giving up. My first try with Kagi gave me exactly what I wanted.

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Post by sgtnoodle »

some_random wrote: post #190
sgtnoodle wrote: post #186

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I've been really happy at Zipline. My salary is comparable to when I was at Google, and my equity has way more potential. As far as stability goes, I can't imagine a company being more supportive of its employees.

It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that this triggers my fight or flight response https://getzipline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/rainbow-zo...

Lol, we're flyzipline.com
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