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Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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I'd like to try - it's quite a cool idea. But the interface seems broken. Is that the HN hug of death, or my corporate netowrk playing up?

What exactly are you seeing that is broken? Can you share a screenshot?

Well, my corporate network seems to be blocking websockets to your domain...

So it's definitely not a neptyne problem (it works great on my personal laptop).

Cool product! Thanks for the good work there.

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know if you’re aware of it, but if you want unaltered text content in an Excel cell, prefix it with a single quote ('). This “escapes” the value so that it isn’t interpreted as any other data type.

I'm generally pasting the results of a SQL query so this is, while possible, massively annoying to do

Excel has "paste with text import wizard" functionality where you can explicitly define the types your columns. For even more control try powerquery.

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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How do you manage version control and testing? I can't see anything in the docs about that.

Lack of review/tests etc is the main reason IMO that spreadsheets can be very dangerous tools. The more they become production applications the greater the impacts are.

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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This looks very useful, I can see this being used in schools and universities for a plethora of studies. However I am European in EU, and while your Privacy policy is eminently readable, I don't think it can be used in EU school settings as you do not specify who your 3rd party service providers ar, what their privacy policys are or where data is hosted (thank you for making it human non lawyer readable). Schools/Uni…

Oh, thanks. That's very helpful. Schools do seem like a good area to roll this out and in fact we did a pilot with a Swiss university (I know, not in the EU). We should look into this.

Basically just make sure that you route EU institutional customers to a version of your product that is on a Datacenter that is GDPR compliant in Ireland and does nto send data out of Ireland.

Good thing about EU Educational institutions is that once you get your foot in the door, they are very conservative and dont like to terminate accounts unless absolutely necessary. Usually buy services for 3 or 5 year cycles.

Good luck!

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> versus an app you have to do download For some, an advantage rather than just a difference. Different strokes for different folks, of course.

> For some, an advantage rather than just a difference. And for others, a disadvantage, rather than just a difference.

Hence my use of the colloquialism “different strokes for different folks”.

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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Founder of AlphaSheets here -- we built this back in 2015 and developed it for 3 years. We built Python, R, SQL and full excel formula/hotkey/format/conditional formatting/ribbon compatibility. It was a long slog! I wish you good luck and all the best. It's a tough field but a big market. And I still think the potential is there.

I noticed that AlphaSheets is no longer in operation - couldn't find the website. What happened?

My guess would be not enough users wanted this feature and if they started to do well Google would add it to their free product.

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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This is cool, but I think it might be missing what the big problems with spreadsheets are. I was complaining just today because I pasted some records into Excel and it decided to treat 933349234275230104 as a number (it's a hash), convert it to scientific notation (which I NEVER want), and lose precision. Yet there is no way to globally disable scientific notation. Plus it's kind of insane that "formatting" changes d…

This can be resolved by changing the cells' format from General to Text. This makes the cells display the text exactly as entered. Select the relevant cells -> right click on them -> Format Cells... -> Text -> Ok

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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I think Gnumeric has supported this for years.

https://help.gnome.org/users/gnumeric/stable/sect-extending-...

I recall doing a noise model of a transimpedance amp in Gnumeric where I called out to Python/Numpy to do integration of 1/f noise based on parameters from a datasheet. That was at least 10 years ago. What's the difference between this Gnumeric feature and Neptyne?

Re: Launch HN: Neptyne (YC W23) – A programmable spreadsheet that runs Python

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Back in 2012, I used Data Nitro / Iron Spread. It enabled running Python on spreadsheets.

My problem back then with the tool was that it sat between chairs. It was impossible to run Python entirely, as it only ran a subset of libraries and did not have a package manager, and it required thinking about cells, as is the case with Excel formulas.

As a result, I could only use some of my Python codebase and not collaborate with other Excel users who were not Python experts. We ended up reverting to Excel formulas or VBA.

I'm curious about who is the target user for Neptyne. Is it Python developers and data scientists who want to do some spreadsheet work?

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