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Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by themitigating »

michaelmrose wrote: post #174
gpm wrote: post #169

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Which is a solution that scales extremely poorly in a global environment with potentially billions of people you might want to mute. More so in an environment which supports anonymity, so that they can just keep creating new accounts.

Kind of like spam you can heuristically figure out who is hurling abuse at people and ban/shadowban/automute their communications to people they are attempting to abuse. I can imagine that the same way you have a shared list of undesirables. Essentially an assholeblock instead of adblock.

This would be a good idea but people can just make new accounts. It would also be open to abuse so it would need an appeal system and some sort of judiciary.

I don't understand why reputation isn't a solution offered for spam and bad people. Why not make users on the internet build trust.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by michaelmrose »

themitigating wrote: post #201
michaelmrose wrote: post #174

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Kind of like spam you can heuristically figure out who is hurling abuse at people and ban/shadowban/automute their communications to people they are attempting to abuse. I can imagine that the same way you have a shared list of undesirables. Essentially an assholeblock instead of adblock.

This would be a good idea but people can just make new accounts. It would also be open to abuse so it would need an appeal system and some sort of judiciary. I don't understand why reputation isn't a solution offered for spam and bad people. Why not make users on the internet build trust.

For egregious breaches you don't need to give them an appeal just ban them. For less egregious situations client side filtering like adblock doesn't get one either by virtue of people not owing you their time.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by slaw »

h0l0cube wrote: post #71
pharke wrote: post #39

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Nah, Microsoft and Meta are obviously partnering up. This is likely just a symptom of that with Meta getting buy in from Microsoft to use Meta's VR platform. I agree that Horizon is the worse of the two but that doesn't mean they'll fail. Worse is better sometimes. The lynchpin will be if Meta is really married to Unity, Unreal Engine is eating Unity's lunch with adoption and features. If Meta makes the jump to UE th…

It's more that the industry is bearish on long bets in a tight financial climate. The tech for VR/AR is too clunky to seamlessly integrate into peoples' daily lives like mobile phones and smart phones did. There will need to be an iPhone-like leap in affordable and portable vision tech before VR/AR becomes a feasible marketplace.

It is not tight financial climate it is normal financial climate.

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Post by andybak »

charcircuit wrote: post #192
echelon wrote: post #108

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VRChat is winning VR. Despite there being a few alternatives (Neos, Chillout, etc.), nothing reaches the scale of VRChat's community, platform, and developer ecosystem. Whoever buys VRChat wins VR.

>VRChat is winning VR. >nothing reaches the scale of VRChat's community, platform, and developer ecosystem. Neos and Chillout require VR. Most VRChat players play the game without VR.

Source?

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by TulliusCicero »

l33t233372 wrote: post #122
generalizations wrote: post #104

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> and you can leave at any time

You can do that online as well, no? I suppose if you elect to not remain anonymous there could be an issue, but generally speaking I don’t know that this is a problem.

Yes, but VR has the advantage of feeling closer to IRL meetups in some ways. Head and hand movement does a lot.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by devwastaken »

Stop trying to put VR in business space. Its for entertainment, focus on that. Valve put out the best VR headset you can buy, and that was years ago, with a team of people without the grand influence of Microsoft.

These mega tech corps are so big they can just hemmorage money, sit on intellectual property, and do nothing. In a competitive market by all means MS should be bankrupt.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by ripley12 »

N1ckFG wrote: post #103
ripley12 wrote: post #22

I was considering getting into HoloLens development a few years ago. It seemed like they were still pushing developers toward UWP even when UWP was obviously nearly dead, and that killed any interest I had. Did the developer story for HoloLens ever get better or did it just die a slow death?

HoloLens 2 switched to Android ARM and UWP apps running on heavily modified Android, but imo the insistence on hand tracking as the primary interface still walled it off from the other Android XR developer communities.

> running on heavily modified Android

What? No it doesn't, HoloLens 2 runs "Windows Holographic" which is based on Windows Core OS.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by Fuzzwah »

gofreddygo wrote: post #99
mjr00 wrote: post #35

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I agree. I think the next 5-10 years will see a massive wave of new companies come out of this. There's been so much talent locked up in bigtech for so long. The amount of talent in these companies that have had golden handcuffs forever due to the continual rise of their stock grants is staggering. Now suddenly bigtech stock is down 50%+, and they can't issue enough RSUs to cover the compensation gap. Moreover, there…

> the next 5-10 years will see a massive wave of new companies come out of this I want this to be true, but I don't see how. Good talent is still locked up in BigTech. Talent that got freed up was working on things BigTech had no way of make money off of, even long term. On the other hand, SmallTech offers now have a better chance, and seem attractive, to said talent. That must count for something. This round of layo…

The list of things that turned out to be huge after the stale incumbants failed to find a way to make money off it is pretty long.
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