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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by pclmulqdq »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #151
didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

My YouTube feed is currently filled with videos of whitehats hacking into Indian scam call centers. Most of the time, the giveaway is the callers' Indian accent. If you could simply type into a box and speak with an American accent, it would be really hard to get caught. We're opening a pandora's box here if I'm honest. I'm hardly one for pro-regulation, but good God, we're playing with things here that can really hu…

There are a lot of words and phrases that indicate that you are speaking Indian English, separate from the accent. Using "learning" as a noun is a very common one in tech.

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Post by TheMrZZ »

piotr11 wrote: post #166

Hey - developers behind ElevenLabs here. Thank you so much for the constructive and positive feedback - we’re taking it onboard! We’re currently focused on researching and deploying a different way for speech synthesis that can generate nuanced intonation and emotions by understanding text and taking context into account. Additionally, we provide creators with a way to clone their own voice based on very short sample…

Hi! Are your models english only, or do you plan on tackling other languages?

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Post by HPsquared »

barking_biscuit wrote: post #181
snek_case wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I could have one single wish fulfilled in this world, it would be that every single human being gain a natural and instinctual revulsion for advanced technology. If someone asked me what disease was the worst that ever plagued humanity, it would not be smallpox or the flu or COVID, it would be the tech company. Time to go live in a cabin in the woods and go write your manifesto on a typewriter...

Typewriter? You heathen! It must be chiseled into the cave wall with a bone.

Writing?! Surely not...

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by rvz »

hnbad wrote: post #158
rvz wrote: post #60

> At Eleven, we're fully committed both to respecting intellectual property rights and to implementing safeguards against potential misuse of our technology Unlike Stable Diffusion trampling over the copyright of artists without their permission and OpenAI doing the same for code mangled with incompatible licenses and monetizing it and outputting the trained data verbatim whilst opening a pandora's box and then attem…

Are you really surprised though? The crypto hype was a vehicle for VC backed companies to sell unregulated financial products to retail investors. The "gig economy" was a vehicle for VC backed companies to skirt labor protections and zoning laws. And now AI is a vehicle for VC backed companies to skirt copyright laws. "Disruption" is often just about finding edge cases of existing laws and regulations and exploiting…

> Are you really surprised though?

Hardly. It is no different to my observations years ago. [0] [1]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21738233

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27493369

Just like the clamping down of cryptocurrency markets and enforcement of regulations, a similar set of rules and regulations will be set for AI companies for complying with existing copyright laws.

The VCs know it is a scam and they are also smart enough to know that this won't go unchecked forever and they will have to unload their investment at the peak of the hype cycle.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by smusamashah »

I have only ever listened to one audio book and that was "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" by Stephen Fry. This is nowhere close to that.

It does mimic the ups and downs of voice but they don't add up. The don't make sense. They don't really have any connections with what is being spoken.

But since it can do expressions, it probably only needs special markers in text to tell it how to really read a sentence.

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Post by barking_biscuit »

dwighttk wrote: post #198
barking_biscuit wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse. My sentiments exactly. I think it's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. I'm reminded of the quote "everything has its pleasure and its price". The more expensive things are to produce, the the less of it there will be, but what…

>The knowledge (and entertainment) I've been able to access thanks for randoms on YouTube is pretty incredible, and I sort of always just accepted the avalanche of spam and clickbait that came with it. Adblockers are amazing

Are there "influencer" blockers?

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Post by sebzim4500 »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #201
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My YouTube feed is currently filled with videos of whitehats hacking into Indian scam call centers. Most of the time, the giveaway is the callers' Indian accent. If you could simply type into a box and speak with an American accent, it would be really hard to get caught. We're opening a pandora's box here if I'm honest. I'm hardly one for pro-regulation, but good God, we're playing with things here that can really hu…

There are a lot of words and phrases that indicate that you are speaking Indian English, separate from the accent. Using "learning" as a noun is a very common one in tech.

I'm sure that could be corrected by even a very basic language model

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by barking_biscuit »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #191
barking_biscuit wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I firmly believe (and I have given this a lot of thought) that technology is ultimately evil, and that tech companies are trading short term gain of enormous wealth for the very essence of humanity, preying upon the basic instincts of individuals who are also trading their personal worth for convenience. I've more or less come to a pretty similar conclusion. I wouldn't characterize it as evil per se, but it's a fool…

I would put the optimal state around native American level of technology. At least some sense of medicine and first aid, food is largely figured out, but no real oppressive technologies figured out yet.

>but no real oppressive technologies figured out yet

And there-in lies the arms race, for if you figure out an oppressive technology, you can oppress people with it who don't have the means to resist.

Hmm... the evil argument starts to make more sense.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by sebzim4500 »

beebmam wrote: post #96
vouaobrasil wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

I would have died long ago without modern technology, and the many surgeries I have needed. It's hard to take your argument seriously when I consider the consequences of what you're advocating for.

Yeah but you have to balance the positives and negatives. Sure you being alive is all very well, but sometimes GP has to overhear teenagers talking about TikTok, and that is unacceptable.
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