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Re: Spotifyd

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This is a problem inherent with walled garden social media. Their garden, their rules. Instead of trying to police behavior we don't like in those walled gardens (which is mostly like trying to walk in quicksand) we should be supporting open protocols and systems that don't require a walled garden at all, like the internet used to be.

An open garden cannot compete with Facebook, Twitter or Spotify. We need regulation and legislation which clearly outlines what is and is not okay, while creating black box behaviours that is impossible to navigate.

Oh, but it can. And already does.

Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models.

A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often does this just fine with a very small social graph, even.

A musician doesn't need a million streams, they need enough revenue to be an income. On spotify (or youtube, etc.) that, indeed, means "millions of streams". But it could just as well be five tshirts sold, twenty-eight .zip files @ €9.88 sold, and three vinyl shipped in a month.

The "numbers" that mark "competing with" faang, really don't matter. We don't need to make billions, we just need to make a good income.

Re: Spotifyd

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How would you make any money as an artist with open protocols?

If your money making model depends on hoping real hard that a giant megacorp throws you a few pennies once in a while I would argue your whole premise needs a rethink. But to answer your question directly, artists make money the same way they always did - making art for rich people that appeals to their tastes.

Strange, artists have made money in lots of different ways other than that

Re: Spotifyd

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Licenses are meaningless, period.

{L,}GPLv{2,3} has corporate lawyers consistently shitting themselves. I derive meaning from this.

They play that game because they have to. Your average Joe is not going to be sued for ignoring a license.

A law is only as good as its enforcement.

Re: Spotifyd

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post #201

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An open garden cannot compete with Facebook, Twitter or Spotify. We need regulation and legislation which clearly outlines what is and is not okay, while creating black box behaviours that is impossible to navigate.

Oh, but it can. And already does. Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models. A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often…

I would have to agree with your sentiment. But for most people, good enough just isn't good enough.

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post #180

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People following instructions to dodge paying by commenting out the payment check code are hardly “hapless geeks”. Nobody does this by accident.

applying a patch to make something work - that seems super normal to me but I guess I'm a geek. Applying patch to a thing to use a service that advertises it supports free accounts? Why wouldn't it support a different client? Thatt seems kind of weird. Is it actually intentional or did they just screw up the library so you've got to work around the breakage like literally everythig in software? So if you listen to a…

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Re: Spotifyd

#206

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How would you make any money as an artist with open protocols?

If your money making model depends on hoping real hard that a giant megacorp throws you a few pennies once in a while I would argue your whole premise needs a rethink. But to answer your question directly, artists make money the same way they always did - making art for rich people that appeals to their tastes.

Most artists make more money from merch and branding, anyways.

Re: Spotifyd

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post #201

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An open garden cannot compete with Facebook, Twitter or Spotify. We need regulation and legislation which clearly outlines what is and is not okay, while creating black box behaviours that is impossible to navigate.

Oh, but it can. And already does. Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models. A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often…

Mastodon is not an “open garden” and can easily, if not more easily, be as arbitrarily administered as any of the social media platforms you’ve mentioned. Each servers admin can and have cut off access to other nodes.

See what’s happening with journa.host as an example.

Re: Spotifyd

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post #180

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People following instructions to dodge paying by commenting out the payment check code are hardly “hapless geeks”. Nobody does this by accident.

applying a patch to make something work - that seems super normal to me but I guess I'm a geek. Applying patch to a thing to use a service that advertises it supports free accounts? Why wouldn't it support a different client? Thatt seems kind of weird. Is it actually intentional or did they just screw up the library so you've got to work around the breakage like literally everythig in software? So if you listen to a…

It literally says, all over the documentation, requires Spotify premium. Spotify’s docs say that things like this require Spotify premium. They also very clearly enumerate features that are only included with the premium tier, which this provides. Without saying too much, the modification is very clearly to remove a “did you play us, if not die” check which is quite intentional.

You should be aware that this thing where you pretend to be confused because you don’t like the answer is a pretty weak defense. You might be impressed with your mental gymnastics, but I assure you that the court will not be.

Re: Spotifyd

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Just one minor tweak of what plays next can totally rip off independent artists on the platform. We have reached an era where algorithms aren't transparent, so artists like me are bewildered that for all the promoting we do on our own music, we rarely get any views and listens unless we literally spend thousands of dollars on advertising to break the visibility barrier... For example, if I tweet a link to my own song…

> even if the link goes to Spotify, they do a ton of things to siphon listeners that came for my music away from listening to my music, including NOT playing more of my music after the intended song plays If always playing songs from the same artists is what people wanted (e.g. lead to more overall listening time), Spotify would 100% do that. You can't pick what a radio station plays next after starting one of your s…

I don’t think more listening time is the objective. Spotify is like a gym. They want you to subscribe but then never show up, or only show up for promoted content

Re: Spotifyd

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post #146

Some other setups already in the comments, but to chime in with my own: I gave up on 3rd party things. My automation VM includes a GUI environment, and I run the official Linux Spotify client. The only way my setup can break is if Spotify gives on Linux entirely. Snapcast[1] transmits two streams to 7 different speaker setups: * Music + text to speech * Just text to speech When TTS plays on the first stream, music vo…

That sounds quite neat, however, this only works for your (spotify) account, right? The appeal of spotifyd from an end-user perspective is that anyone on the network can control it.

I'm pretty sure all Spotify clients also act as "Spotify Connect" targets. Anyone could use it (also I could run an Airplay target on it, but I don't bother)
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