I have not used SO since I've started using ChatGPT, it is so much easier to get to the correct answer and it can even be tailored to my specific example.
So double whammy for SO which makes me feel really sad.
Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
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Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, that's an interesting argument if I ever saw one! Your viewpoint is completely the opposite of mine, let me argue a couple of points: > An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks? Are you saying…
This reads like a ChatGPT response. (So does my response!) Whether it is or isn't is beside the point. Broad, anonymous commenting platforms are dead, they just don't know it.
> This reads like a ChatGPT response. (So does my response!)
Your comment is very interesting, because I'm having the same experience: the more I interact with ChatGPT and read its arguments/responses, the more I'm getting weird vibes when reading arguments written by humans, although I cannot tell you exactly why (and I think I can still clearly differentiate between a human and an answer from ChatGPT that is copied verbatim, as it tends to speak in a more formal way and usually, it's also more verbose than how humans typically write here in HN).
I think it's also influencing the way I write, both to be more clear (because otherwise ChatGPT can misinterpret me), but also because I'm reading so much ChatGPT-generated content, which I believe also indirectly influences the way I write and think.
In any case, I know you said it's besides the point, but I assure you, I'm not ChatGPT or copying its answers here (unless I add a clear disclaimer) :)
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#203For some things, ChatGPT is just better than SO. I have to say I probably won't hit SO for some basic stuff anymore, I'll just ask ChatGPT. And some queries are just not acceptable on SO, but fine for ChatGPT. For example I might wish to ask, "Give me the framework for a basic API written in Python that uses API key authentication. Populate it with several sample methods that return data structures in json." If I ask…
What if it takes less time to hack together such an API than prompt engineering and back-to-back conversation with a bot whose results you have to verify anyway? I imagine it would if you're familiar with the language, Framework, tools, etc.
And if you're not familiar with the tools, language or framework, I think that alone should be a reason to forego it for anything else than "learning it".
Which means that question was the wrong question in the first place.
To be clear: i'm not arguing against learning new stuff. But against using unfamiliar tech to do a serious project.
And i'm bringing that up here, because if the tech is familiar, then asking what tech to use, is rather strange.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#204Let me be the advocate of devil I think ChatGPT is actually sometimes a lot better than SO answers
For the last few days I've been using ChatGPT instead of SO. It's OK, it's just frequently wrong, so I assume I have to fact-check its answers. Yesterday it claimed to me JavaScript has a built-in `sum` method, before admitting no browsers supported it and it's not in the spec.
It's useful for starting investigation, but one of the nice things about SO is that answers are voted for, so you can usually see which are actually right!
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Hearing what an AI statistically regurgitates doesn’t satisfy the purpose even if it’s better written. The internet is about people . I may not be friends with everyone on H…
Wow, that's an interesting argument if I ever saw one! Your viewpoint is completely the opposite of mine, let me argue a couple of points: > An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks? Are you saying…
> Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks?
HN is a professional social network. People are most interested in what their peers have to say, not any random human being or human level AI.
Now if this human level AI is working in the field as a professional, or at least in computer science academia the it’s opinions are valid and interesting. However if it’s merely an average best possible response then it’s pointless to hear it’s opinion.
Additionally if multiple people post chatGPT responses that’s just like talking to same person using humans as sock puppets.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Hearing what an AI statistically regurgitates doesn’t satisfy the purpose even if it’s better written. The internet is about people . I may not be friends with everyone on H…
Wow, that's an interesting argument if I ever saw one! Your viewpoint is completely the opposite of mine, let me argue a couple of points: > An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks? Are you saying…
The AI we see today is a synthesis of a huge number of arbitrary inputs. You may argue that humans are, as well, but humans are different machine than AI. If I am asking for a human response, or a human piece of artwork, I am doing so because I want to understand and experience the output of machines of the same model. I want to continue the human experience.
AI-generated content can be fascinating, helpful, and in some instances, more useful and accurate than humans (medical diagnosis, technical documentation, perhaps). But if I ask for a human, I want a human.
I don't care if AI is more interesting than a human. I want a human, because I am human. I am not transhumanist.
I wonder what the correlation is between people who see no particular value in interacting with humans, and people who struggle to interact with humans.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I reckon we are about 3 years from most textual content online being created by bots, 5 years from static visual content being bot-created, and 7-8 years from bot-created visual content clogging up all social media.
> we are about 3 years from most textual content online being created by bots 0 years.
1 year for this tech to be incorporated into most cheap/free creative tools.
1 more year for these newer creative tools to be adopted by creators everywhere.
1 more year for the humans to completely give up.
You have to remember that tech takes time to permeate to the bottom rung. Most of my non tech friends haven’t even heard of Dall-E, let alone chatGPT.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#208I just encountered this, 2 users[1][2] it's very obvious as well since you can see the reputation spike from basically nothing.
[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/users/19192614/boatti?tab=topactiv...
[2]: https://stackoverflow.com/users/20684429/a-s?tab=topactivity
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#209It seems like there are a few potential negative consequences of using AI-generated answers on Stack Overflow. For one, the quality of the answers may be lower than if they were written by a human. Additionally, if these AI-generated answers become too common, it could potentially lead to a more impersonal and less supportive community on Stack Overflow. Finally, if the AI is able to search the internet and "inbreed"…
This is definitely not going to help combat the "Dead Internet" conspiracy theory
https://theswaddle.com/what-the-dead-internet-theory-predict...
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no genie here, some people have a belief about this while it is very easy to probe the low quality and inaccuracy of the responses.
Can you give some examples of the low quality/incorrect responses? Then try remedying those by rephrasing the prompts? I’m curious what the actual limitations are.