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Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #112
bloaf wrote: post #50

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They know they are going to be the next target in the war on general purpose computing. They're trying to stave it off for as long as possible by signalling to the authorities that they are the good guys. A confrontation is inevitable, though. Right now it costs moderate sums of money to do this level of training. Not always will this be so. If I were an AI-centric organization, I would be racing to position myself a…

appeasement never works. those who wage that war should be directly confronted. and they will lose it, just like they've lost the war on encryption.

I doubt they care if people make porn with diffusion models. They just don’t want to be the ones providing the model to do it.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

fastball wrote: post #76
kmeisthax wrote: post #45

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The main reason why Stable Diffusion is worried about NSFW is that people will use it to generate disgusting amounts of CSAM. If LAION-5B or OpenAI's CLIP have ever seen CSAM - and given how these datasets are literally just scraped off the Internet, they have - then they're technically distributing it. Imagine the "AI is just copying bits of other people's art" argument, except instead of statutory damages of up to…

Is artificially generated CSAM that doesn't actually involve children in its production not an improvement over the status quo?

I have no answer to this but I have seen people mention that artificial CSAM is illegal in the USA, so the question of whether it is better or not is somewhat overshadowed by the very large market where it is illegal.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by s1k3s »

Is there any place where we can learn more about all these AI tools that keep popping up, that is not marketing speak? Also, I see the words 'open' and 'open source' and yet they all require me to sign up to some service, join some beta program, buy credits etc. Are they open source?

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by nbzso »

The crimes against the creative people are getting better and better. What a time to live, when your entire career burns to dust just because.

I hope AI gets these programmers jobs soon.

Then we all can go to the woods and have a good life, finally.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by aero-glide2 »

s1k3s wrote: post #203

Is there any place where we can learn more about all these AI tools that keep popping up, that is not marketing speak? Also, I see the words 'open' and 'open source' and yet they all require me to sign up to some service, join some beta program, buy credits etc. Are they open source?

You can run it locally, you don't need to use their service

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by Liquix »

s1k3s wrote: post #203

Is there any place where we can learn more about all these AI tools that keep popping up, that is not marketing speak? Also, I see the words 'open' and 'open source' and yet they all require me to sign up to some service, join some beta program, buy credits etc. Are they open source?

Yes, it is open source. Visit the repo linked in the article and follow the setup instructions - no signup required

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by [deleted] »

xkapastel wrote: post #192
charcircuit wrote: post #127

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Read the license of the model: https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion/blob/main/LI... 5. and 7. make it not open source

I don't see how it contradicts the open source definition at https://opensource.org/osd , could you point it out for me?

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Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by iceburgcrm »

xnyan wrote: post #66
dougmwne wrote: post #62

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Are you kidding? Many times corporate decisions are being made effectively at random. Thinking that the average company operates with a 999 batting average is a total fantasy.

When our c suite decides on an ad campaign and tells our artists to draw normal humans, those people have 3 legs or upside down teeth exactly 0% of the time. Humans have many many limitations, but with every model I’ve tested there’s a set of errors that would virtually never be made by any human.

In fairness ad campaigns have people who review the creative. Now I could see a band using an image like that or something edgy

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

NKosmatos wrote: post #199

Wow, just wow! Newbie question, why can’t someone just take a pre-trained model/network with all the settings/weights/whatever and run it on a different configuration (at a heavily reduced speed)? Isn’t it like a Blender/3D studio/Autocad file, where you can take the original 3D model and then render it using your own hardware? With my single GOU it will take days to raytrace a big scene, whereas someone with multipl…

It’s not totally clear what you are asking. The models are trained on something like an NVIDIA A100 which is a super high end machine learning processor, but inference can be run on a home GPU. So this is a “different configuration”.

But I think maybe you mean, can they make a model which normally needs a lot of RAM run more slowly on a machine that only has a little RAM?

It sounds like there are some tricks to allow the use of smaller amounts of ram by making specific algorithmic tweaks, so if a model normally needs 12GB of VRAM then, depending on the model, it may be possible to modify the algorithm to use 1/2 the RAM for example. But I don’t think it’s the same as other rendering tasks where you can use arbitrarily less compute and just run it longer.

Maybe I’m wrong though.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by this_is_not_you »

s1k3s wrote: post #203

Is there any place where we can learn more about all these AI tools that keep popping up, that is not marketing speak? Also, I see the words 'open' and 'open source' and yet they all require me to sign up to some service, join some beta program, buy credits etc. Are they open source?

Did you miss the first part of the article?

> It is our pleasure to announce the open-source release of Stable Diffusion Version 2.[0]

> The original Stable Diffusion V1 led by CompVis changed the nature of open source AI models and spawned hundreds of other models and innovations all over the world. It had one of the fastest climbs to 10K Github stars of any software, rocketing through 33K stars in less than two months.

[0] https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion

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