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Re: Affinity 2

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Not a chance if you need it for professional editing. No clone tools, no camera profiles, probably lack of lens correction profiles as well. UI is prehistoric. RawTherapee is little bit less nerdy than darktable but still not suitable for serious photography work.

Huh? It has all that. UI is optimized for hardware controllers and customization, and I think if you value workflow and features you can tolerate your dog barking at your app. I personally observed darktable being used in a mid-to-large studio along with C1. I think the weakness of darktable in production is mainly speed and highlight restoration, not anything of what you said. And possibly its filmic module which co…

From my experience RawTherapee has little bit more visually pleasing UI and default settings is more suitable for editing than in Darktable.

Re: Affinity 2

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Darn I got excited for no reason. I first read "ALL PLATFORMS" and thought that version 2 would also work on Linux. But alas!

It looks like there are only two big bugs keeping it from running in Wine, etc., a flickering issue and the fact that they're using a deprecated Windows API call to save to disk. However, they also seem to show no interest in making it work. They'll still have to update that call eventually, though.

They really should fix it. The fact that they're selling software and not subscriptions (unlike the competition) means that if they get one version running well on Wine, they could take as long as they wanted to get any later version running. Linux users will just be a year or two behind everyone else, but they'd be grateful.

Re: Affinity 2

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Kudos for not having a subscription. That is _so_ refreshing these days.

On the other hand, once the previous version stops working, it stops working. With Apple and their constant changes and bad backward portability, you can end up with broken app.

For all of the old Microsoft's faults, they really did an excellent job with backwards compatibility. Now things are a mess and I fear that you are right. It really isn't the developers fault imo. OS really should be more stable.

Re: Affinity 2

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So, I've been using Illustrator for years with an OSM -> Illustrator workflow where I start with OSM XML, feed it to osm2ai.pl, and then wholly style it by hand. It's... fine... but Illustrator's cost is getting to me. I gave QGIS -> Affinity a cursory look the other day and had no problem taking my results from an Overpass query and exporting it from QGIS as SVG and bringing it into Affinity. So, that gave me a ton…

Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware of osm2ai - looks helpful! I'm starting a new project this week and will test out the QGIS -> Affinity workflow and write up any findings.

Thanks! I'd love to hear that.

A while back I thought about making my maps in QGIS, but found the stuff for styling the map just... lacking. It was a LOT easier to do what I wanted in Illustrator. But there was still the problem of getting the bare vectors into there for styling.

Holy grail for me would be some sort of OSM -> Affinity where I can define groups based on OSM tags.

Re: Affinity 2

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post #179

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Open source software like Gimp and Linux are free and can be run on your $50 single board computer instead of paying $500 for a laptop that requires a $139 OS license and a $119 software license for Affinity.

While it's certainly nice that those options exist, they are also entirely unsuitable for any kind of professional work. I assume the target user you're thinking of is looking to do some occasional, light-weight editing. And even this user will be frustrated with the irritating UI and workflow of software like (and in particular) The Gimp. For me, it's close to unusable — and I am someone whose first computer was a T…

> There's value in usability.

That value costs money. A parent poster posited someone for whom ~$100 was a lot of money. You speak of professional work. I don't think the intersection of these two groups exist. Casual users with no money can use krita gimp darktable and be reasonable satisfied. Demanding professionals even in poorer parts of the world can use the wages earned to easily pay $100.

Re: Affinity 2

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I use two Adobe apps routinely: - Illustrator (for making PDF maps from OSM data). - Lightroom. It'll take a bit of work to move my workflow to Affinity, but I think I've got a solid plan for that. (No, Affinity Designer does not open AIs properly... It does funky things with lines.) But, I can't find a solid replacement for Lightroom. All I need is basic DAM (digital asset management) and crop/rotate/color. Can any…

> (No, Affinity Designer does not open AIs properly... It does funky things with lines.) I hope you'll report that! They seem to be pretty on top of fixing interop issues. > Can any of you suggest a GOOD alternative? If you need traditional DAM you'll want to look elsewhere, but if you're macOS-based I finally landed on Apple Photos with its extensions ecosystem (which includes software from Affinity, ON1, etc.). It…

AI is a closed proprietary format that is not published. What Affinity had said in the past is that they don’t read AI but do read the PDF portion of Illustrator files

Re: Affinity 2

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Huh? It has all that. UI is optimized for hardware controllers and customization, and I think if you value workflow and features you can tolerate your dog barking at your app. I personally observed darktable being used in a mid-to-large studio along with C1. I think the weakness of darktable in production is mainly speed and highlight restoration, not anything of what you said. And possibly its filmic module which co…

From my experience RawTherapee has little bit more visually pleasing UI and default settings is more suitable for editing than in Darktable.

My problem with RT is that the ordering of its operations (an absolutely crucial thing) is not specified anywhere. It's just an explosion of sliders, more or less arbitrarily grouped into categories. Same goes for ART, the somewhat streamlined fork of RT. In contrast, DT offers a sane and documented pipeline, which reasonably follows the pipeline known from the video world, with its separation into scene-relative and output-relative parts based on physics and perception, adjusted for photography needs.

Strict terminology based on fundamental principles, strict reasoning and control over the pipeline, rooted in the video world. Perhaps that's why it looks somewhat foreign to you, it's a bit unlike most other photography tools which need to be marketed and typically offer "magic" with little reproducibility from one software to another. Like the saturation slider which is not actual saturation known from the color theory, at least in Lightroom and C1. Hence the endless bickering between photographers who don't understand fundamentals of color perception and fight over what software gives a better look.

Regarding the UI, maybe I'm different from the most but I honestly don't care how it looks, as long as it delivers and is usable. A professional tool is a truck, not a luxury car; it's alright to have it a bit dirty. I remember the days of Softimage 3D; when I've seen it the first time in 2000, it looked terribly ancient to me. But it was one of the most powerful CGI toolkits at the time.

Regarding the defaults, they are easily changed once and are used afterwards, provided you understand the fundamentals. However I've never needed to do so once I understood how it functions under the hood. The defaults look fine to me.

I'm not a professional photographer though, and despite DT being light years ahead of everyone in several areas I find it lacking in others, which prevents me from using it on a constant basis.

Re: Affinity 2

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Darn I got excited for no reason. I first read "ALL PLATFORMS" and thought that version 2 would also work on Linux. But alas!

Supposedly they're a relatively small team. According to another comment (I don't use it personally), they're missing a lot of features Adobe has had for decades, so they would probably understandably prioritize porting to Linux under even that .

I sympathize with them completely. The effort needed to port it to Linux most likely won't be worth the small user base (and the even smaller percentage of Linux users that'll use proprietary software)

Re: Affinity 2

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They undoubtedly have the most friendly business model, but as some commenters noted, it isn't a drop-in replacement and Adobe's workflow is still (sadly) unmatched.

However there's another problem: Adobe is still the industry standard. Employers are looking for Adobe on resumes, they provide employees with Adobe products and they expect a certain compatibility between their employees (i.e. Alice and Bob can work on the same files).

Learning the Affinity suite might actually hurt your career as long as this is the case. As a career decision it is still a better move to put your time into Adobe.

And I really dislike Adobe.

Re: Affinity 2

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When Adobe switched to the subscription only a lot of people looked at ways to move on.

This created a plethora of "replacement" applications and suits.

I have tried most of them.

Affinity is a great alternative that has in my opinion stood the test best. They are remarkably good and not weighed down with all sorts of gimmicks and fluff.

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